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Old 06-25-2009, 05:54 PM
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See I actually don't like big overworked colas, I prefer little 3-5g buds.. You can usually keep the plant shorter with less hassle using FIM too.. Its good for microgrowers for one..
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See I actually don't like big overworked colas, I prefer little 3-5g buds.. You can usually keep the plant shorter with less hassle using FIM too.. Its good for microgrowers for one..
If you want smaller buds just top your plant higher...

I would think the opposite in respect to height when you fim.

When you top the plant you are chopping off vertical growth, when you fim it you leave the vertical growth where it is.

Topping would be more suited for micro grows than fimming.

I see more room for hassle and error with fimming versus topping.

The plant is NOT growing symmetrically when it is fimmed.

When it is topped it IS, which is why topping is less work than any other form of training.



I'm not trying to say fimming doesn't work, but if there is nothing unique it really offers why bother?
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I don't have an OCD thing for symmetry.. I've done both ways a few times, its not theoretical.. It can be a good way to go..
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I don't have an OCD thing for symmetry.. I've done both ways a few times, its not theoretical.. It can be a good way to go..
Yea thats good that you don't I guess?

Symmetric = efficient and simple was the point I was trying to make.


I guess what it all boils down to is this..


If fimming doesn't produce more tops, why do micro-surgery on your plant tops and hope for the best, when you can make your plant do exactly what you want without having to go to that level of precision by just using plain topping?
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But symmetry isn't the best option for all setups.. For instanceWith limited height/space, growing them like a right angled triangle up against a reflective surface will give you better light usage because you can side light the plant and not be wasting the symmetrical shoots on the opposite side..
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But symmetry isn't the best option for all setups.. For instanceWith limited height/space, growing them like a right angled triangle up against a reflective surface will give you better light usage because you can side light the plant and not be wasting the symmetrical shoots on the opposite side..
You can train your plants however you want to regardless of how you top them.

You can get 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 however many tops you want in whatever space you want using conventional topping methods without having to perform microsurgery.
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You can fucking do anything.. FIM is another tool in the box.. Some ppl use the proper tool for a job, other ppl do everything with a hammer..
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You can fucking do anything.. FIM is another tool in the box.. Some ppl use the proper tool for a job, other ppl do everything with a hammer..
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I never really thought fimming was ever worth using over just plain topping, since you can get as many tops as you want by just repeatedly topping it, but I see that this can cut down the time that you have to veg, but its more of a gamble because you don't really know how many tops you are going to end up with in the end.
These no gamble about it and there is no stress on the plant.

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Well then I fail to see how this method is even worth using if thats the case, a lack of consistency for a chance at the same results of a proven method?

You can get 4 tops 100% of the time by just plain topping.
I get very consistant results every time and this is a proven method. I dont want 4 tops I want 4 main branches! Each branch then grows multiple colas so that is the benefits of this method.

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Can you elaborate? I can't think up any scenario that would put fimming out on top.

I used to think fimming was worthless because I would always see people fimming their plants at the very top with 7-8 nodes below the fim point wondering why they had a bunch of dinky colas.

If I had a choice between fimming my plant or leaving it alone I would most definitely fim it.

I just can't seem to see fimming as anything other than inferior to topping with a chance at getting the same results.

Excluding time constraints what real benefits does fimming have over topping?
Ive never had a problem with dinky colas. Infact its quiet the opposite with me. I have never seen the same results come from topping and I have tried it many times.

The benefits are its simplicity, lack of plant stress, rapid branch growth which results in many colas on each branch, a wider fuller canopy, higher yield. Did I leave anything out?

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I see more room for hassle and error with fimming versus topping.

The plant is NOT growing symmetrically when it is fimmed.

When it is topped it IS, which is why topping is less work than any other form of training.

I'm not trying to say fimming doesn't work, but if there is nothing unique it really offers why bother?
No hassle and I am yet to make an error since its so simple to do and I have done it many times over with very consistant results.

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If fimming doesn't produce more tops, why do micro-surgery on your plant tops and hope for the best, when you can make your plant do exactly what you want without having to go to that level of precision by just using plain topping?
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You can train your plants however you want to regardless of how you top them.

You can get 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 however many tops you want in whatever space you want using conventional topping methods without having to perform microsurgery.
Its not micro surgery and after all I just use my fingers to FIM so not even sisscors are required. All done in a matter of a seconds. Over all its just a simple effective method to produce many colas and bud sites which results in a higher yielding plant.
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