Blaze, here she is after her first day of 12/12. We've had some electrical issues. Damn techmology.

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First off, thank you M Blaze for the breakdown on Fimming. My question is rather than reguards to height, because so many plants grow differently. Some short and bushy, some tall and lanky. At what point during a grow do you find it best to Fim them? Specifically, if it makes sense, How many nodes or branches would you suggest there be on the plant before you Fim the top?

On a quick side note, I learned an inmeasurable amount from your journal. Thank you.

I have FIMmed plants as young as having 3 sets of true leaves so it can be done when they are that small and it would also give good results from the young age.

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MB - I have read your grow journals, and am curious...You have obviously got your grow method perfected (as evidenced by your monster yields and healthy plants), however I was wondering - when you were perfecting the fim and LST for your plants, did you ever do a comparison as far as total yield? IOW have one clone from the same mother/strain that you fimmed and LSTd and the other just left to grow on it's own, then compare yield at harvest?

Also, do you think the 15 gal. grow pots are pivotal (for root space) to grow monsters such as yours? Do you think one could get "close" results growing with soil in lieu of coco (FF soil and 600W HPS)?

BTW - I know folks say this a lot, but I just can't thank you enough for the way you selflessly share all your methods, and provide inspiration to those of us who aspire to have beautiful/productive plants such as yours...THANKS and +rep.

hey m blaze great fuckin tutorial man. quick question, how much growth was below the plant when you first FIMMED it?

umm there was a few branches.

I have never done an exact side by side comparison but have tried many different methods such as topping. I prefer the FIM because it suits my grow style well.

Coco allows for massive root mass and the 15gal pots just add to that. Soil could possibly get simmilar results but ever since I started growing trees ive been using coco and I will find it hard to go back to soil.

Cheers

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Soil is too broad a term anyways.. Spend the time/money to build yourself a properly structured super-mix with all the popular organics, calcium peroxide/lime, mycorhizae etc, like they do in the organics forum, but still be willing to fertilize when needed, and work your way up to giant pots via many transplant stages soil will take you alot further than it would if you justbuy a bag of topsoiil and perlite, mix it up and wait..
Initial cost of building a soil like that can get pretty high though because there are quite a few things you should add, and in the beginning you'll have no leftover product.. On the plus side though, with soil like that, your plants won't need anything except a bit of cheapo fertilizer once in a while..

can you do that with every new growths?

I have never done that before beause I find that once is enough. Others may be able to tell you if they have done it more than once and the results they had.

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yeh me too i FIM'd properly and veg'd for around 4 weeks after that what i found was that the following was vital to this process....


quote from m blaze

Yes a good FIM will create 4 main branches not just 4 colas like topping so each branch will then grow more colas/buds. I choose to FIM once only because that is all I want to achieve as I grow my plants big and each branch ends up with a lot of weight on it and a very wide canopy.

This is what I would call a good result from FIMming and you can see that every branch below the FIM has been trimmed off so there is only the 4 main branches. I also trim part of the bottom of each branch as well so the plants focus all their energy on the many main colas and buds that each branch produces.


i can imagine so people not doing this properly and it being a bit of a mess low down and a mass of lost energy uptop....

cannot impress enough how important it is to clean up the bottom & strip the lower budding sites on your side arms

top thread once again and ill put up some shots of my fimmd plants after 14 days flower (as the grow stage finishes... ive been doing a fair bit of stripping yesterday and was amazined at how much i took of the plant tbh... scarey stuff