In your opinion then is this something that is worth doing in the heat of summer? Thanks badmf for schooling us!!

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isnt OverGrow gone? too bad that info wasnt archived. The trigger thing seems complicated. I was wondering if you could just go from 24 veg to 6/12 flower.

That's really what I thought this thread was going to test.

Timers are getting more advanced, so I can see this being more applicable than it used to be (I cant believe you were able to get up at those weird hours all the time to turn lights on/off!)

I dont see anything other than 12/12 very much, but if it does work, I'd sure like to!

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This seems too good to be true and that's only from reading how a plant makes bud. When the lights are off a chemical buildup in the plant occurs that tells the plant to make buds. When you turn the lights on this chemical is pretty much cut off and it starts its light cycle.

So, when you shorten the time the plant has to make bud...it makes more bud? Like, the plant works harder during its bud cycle or what?

http://www.cannabisculture.com/v2/articles/4224.html

From CCMag

Not what I said!! I lengthened the time for several weeks (36/12) then I shortened it, 6/12) till finish. The only time I use 6/12 is at the end. As Ed says in his article it would reduce grow time even if it finished sooner it would be a lower yeild. But this is for 6/12 all the wa out different than my methods.Most people think I'm crazy and they're right! LOL

I tried having shorter days on my last grow. Unfortunatley i also fucked it up by not being around for a month and letting the ph get way too low so i cant give a fair idea of yeild, it was a shit grow. I did find though that if you set your timers to 6.40 off and 12 on you can fit 9 'days' into a week, that way its easier to keep track of when its on and off and you only need a timer that supports 9 programs.

When i realised how bad it had gone i panicked and switched back to 12/12, bad idea. It tripped them back into veg then straight back to bloom and caused double budding and a considerable drop in yeild.

From what i've played with i think shorter days have the potential to work quite well. Faster grow and cheaper electric per grow is attractive but im gonna finnish the grow im on on 12/12 since im trying out a combination of LST, FIM and supper cropping and i dont want to make it any more complicated than it already is! If everything goes well i'll be trying 6.40/12 again.

Greetings folkes i recently started a thread on a 6/12 exparment im doing feel free to head over for a ride in the time machine,cheers HBR
HBRs 6/12 Time machine

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math is one of my strong points, and by reading this thread, i can tell a few of you are a bit confused...

the 6/12 method DOES save electricity.

Think of it this way, lights are on 1/3 the time... instead of 1/2 the time.

if you only think of the first day, then you are cheating yourself... you have to look at the next 3 days as well, make a chart if you have to... point is... your electric bill would be cut... and ill tell you the exact amount...

1/2 x 2 = 1
1/3 x 2 = 2/3

3/3 - 2/3 = 1/3

1/3 savings

or you can look at it like this, my lights are on .33% of the time instead of .5%
.50 - .3333 = .1666
.1666 goes into .50 three times.

So again, 1/3 or 33% savings on your electric bill.

Now if you factor in the heat reduction in your room... you might even save more money.

Plants grow at night. They store chemicals from day time until night comes, and then build themselves.

During the day the work is to capture the light and nutrients in water in soil... during night it doenst have light to capture, so it focuses its energy on building.

hypothetically... a plant can only store so much energy... kind of like a battery.

if you leave your cell phone on the charger for 2 weeks, it doesnt mean it will stay charged for a month... same concept here.

So, i think it makes sense that even with 1/3 less light, a plant could still perform comprable to the normal 12/12.

But that is all just theory... i dont have any data either way...

I just find this thread interesting and wanted to help a few people out who were having a hard time understanding the power savings aspect.

Cheers

biggest downfall i can see to this is... daytime might be at 3am... and night time might be at noon... each day it will vary. Every 3 days the cycle rotates.

So if you like checking on your plants, and dont have those nifty green lights that the plants cant see... then you are screwed and might mess up your plants.

As far as the question goes up top about "can you put the plants straight from 24/0 veg to 6/12 bloom... yes you can.

As someone already mentioned... what causes the plant to boom is the 12 hours of un interupted darkness.

24 hours of darkness would make your plant bloom... but problem is plant still needs light.

How much light?... consecutive light?...

thats the question at hand.

If a plant only needs 6 hours... and then everything after that is just wasted... and the plant has enough energy stored, and is waiting for the lights to go out... then this system WOULD make a plant bud faster because the 6 EXTRA hours that mother nature leaves the lights on.... is useless...

its like keeping a phone on a charger after it says its done charging...

so... do i know how much light CONSECUTIVE that a plant can use and needs during budding? NO

But, i do know there is a limit... there has to be.

And if it is only 6, or 7, 8, 9... whatever the number...

Then ALL OF US are wasting electricity and TIME by not letting the plant have the darkness it needs to burn through the energy it has.. and then come back for a new charge (daylight)

Im very interested to see what the tests show. Hopefully someone who has a grow in a basement or super dark room can do this... because like i said... you will have the lights out at high noon every 3 days by using this cycle.... and that means no other light can be present... which means you cant accidently check on your plants and let them see light.