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Old 04-23-2009, 10:06 AM
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Question Combining Uncle bens topping technique with scrog, worthwhile?
So im starting plans for my 4th grow and been looking at different methods. Do you think it would be worthwhile combining Uncle Bens topping method with scrog? If topping creates 4 main colas, is it because of the light available that they grow to become main colas or because of hormones?

I was thinking it would be a good idea to increase the number of stems, but with scrog the plants would get an even amount of light across the buds so would it make a difference?

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Sure, weave the 4 new shoots through a screen if you want to.. But be warned, screens can create alot of grief if you don't know exactly what you're doing.. (And maybe even if you do.. I dunno, I never really perfected it before I banished them..)
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I agree Born.

Life's too short to have to screw around with screen issues.

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Thanks for the comments guys.

So what sort of issues do you get with scrog? Bud rot if its too packed? i've been battling spider mite for virtually the length of my current grow (under control but never quite gone, little bastards) so id imagine scrog would make it harder to kill off infestation. Im planning to get some kind of bug bomb and nuke them before the next grow though.

I like the topping method idea but ive got 8 plants in a 5"x2" space (under 1 600w sodium and 1 400w sodium) so im concerned about amount of light available. Scrog seemed a good way of sorting out light issues.

Any suggestions?
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That's a waste of light for 10 s.f. If you have mite problems I sure wouldn't do SCROG unless you have a way to spray underneath the bench up into the plants.

No need to top doing SCROG as your bud output will come from the nodes.

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I agree Born.

Life's too short to have to screw around with screen issues.

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I lst and fim everything. In a 2 month veg it works perfectly. I start at the 8th node. I continue for the whole veg. I fim even bottom branches by the end. I zip tie the plant to itself. It makes a nice even canopy.
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That's a waste of light for 10 s.f.
What is? 8 plants? do you recon id be better off with more?
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he means if you screen it in a scrog it will be like a sog at the canopy where you dont need so much light. There is no need for penetration. The buds ar all up at the light. I would just run a 600. Go digital. I can recomend a Lunatek. And make sure you get a wide hood. Some hoods are so narrow. I found a wide hood on ebay for 80 bucks.
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In an area like 5x2, multiple lights or light movers would help alot.. Ideally 3 150W.. Without CO2 addition, no foliage can really utilize more than ~50/sqft though.. And you gotta take into consideration the fact that light isn't cast equally across the canopy, so some areas will be getting 200+W/sqft while others will be light hungry if you don't set up well..
 

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