Ask them for a reference to a non-partisan analysis. Just because they say it contains this and that, doesn't mean it does. Or if it does, doesn't mean you get what you pay for.

Best way to increase yields, and the cheapest, it understanding what makes a plant tick. Certainly won't be found in a pretty bottle with a pretty name.

UB

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yea it is all about the money... I know great white works well but seems to be a huge rip off and i dont like how it has 9% nitrogen...

The company that claims to be the best in that chart has agreed to send me free product... they said they would be happy for there product to be tested against any competitors.... they also told me that I could have the product tested for around $35.00 dollars (depending on who tests it) and that if the spore count was lower than 1500 than i would recieve a refund... they also claim to use no fillers... its a 25% / 25% / 50% mix of pure goods.

This stuff is really cheap compared to other similar products... a 4oz. jar of great white is $35..... or you can get pumpkin pro for as cheap as $8.00 a pound.

i know everyone claims to be the best... i will do my usual side by side and let everyone know what happens.

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the link you posted is probably correct..... they dont list the companies that they tested against.... so i could believe that they were the winners.... I wonder if they tested mykos, pumkin pro, or great white?

anyhow yea, i understand and agree with a lot of your snake oil beliefs but i dont agree completely with everything you say.... but i still got respect for your views and i always like to hear someone hate on AN so.... keep on rockin uncle ben...

have a good one!

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Do you mean MYCO MADNESS by Humboldt? http://www.horticulturesource.com/hu...b-12-cs-p5882/ Price is double from what I pay and it goes without saying, it's another rip. With shipping, a $5 "handling fee" and the price of the goods we're talking $89 to my door!

What I buy, Myco-Apply Soluble Max is $38 and makes up to 200 gallons of drench which allows me to use it commercially in the field. BTW, if you're using a decent compost, you don't need any of this stuff, not that it necessarily improves plant anyway. Adding peat moss and compost or castings to your potting soil and you're good to go regarding your desire for humates, microbes, etc.

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the plant supplement industry is similar to the human supplement industry the key to not getting burned is doing your own research and educating yourself on the biology of plants and the organisms that live with them. at which point you can make an educated opinion on whats worth spending money on. some products are worth it and useful and some are pure snake oil.

Very reason why I always buy generic, NON-organic aka non "natural" vitamins or supplements. I will not get sucked into the scare tactics and propaganda spewed by the green movement wackos.

Now.....where in the hell did I put that ouija board?

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no. i know about the many humboldt products , but i mean MYKOS by xtreme gardening/RTI........ its fresh pure inoculant without filler and has a huge reputation in the pumpkin growing world under the name "Symbios Pumpkin Pro"
mykos / pumpkin pro... same product/same company but two different names.
they say the most important thing is that it is fresh and of coarse claim that most brands arent and theirs is....

but its cheap... 18 dollars for a pound of mykos or 60 dollars for 10 pounds....

they said i could have it tested myself against any competitor at many labs for around 35 bucks.... and if it had a lower spore count or a count below 1500 (30 is concider good), they would refund me and give me new fresh inoculant for free.

they shipped me some for free, so i guess i got nothing to lose on this round...
I found that most nutrient companies will just give you their products for free if you ask right... at that point the price of the product doesnt matter... i try it, if it works i buy more, if not i dont.

mycos apply is one of the better ones as well.

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Normal shelf life is at least 2 years if you keep it in a cool place.

Like I said, it's all about the money and neither you or I can qualify their claims. It's a matter of blind trust. This stuff is not regulated being that it falls under a "non-conventional" additive, so these guys can pee in a bottle, call it Grandma's Wonderful Sunshine and sell it for 90 a liter.....and get away with it.

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true dat.............. but regardless of all their claims, some companies products ARE actually better than others... finding which is which is the challange.

anyhow i got a pound for free and a bunch of smaller samples of some of their other blends... they even overnight mailed it.

if it works well, then it happens to be way cheaper than most of the other companies when i buy more.


ive read 2 year shelf life from some sources as well..... but that sounds like blind faith as u would say.

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That's a great score! Have fun....

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