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Old 07-02-2009, 02:02 AM
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This product has potential. http://www.super-grow.biz/MycoMaxx.jsp
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I was suggesting some sort of controlled test in this other related thread:
bacterea that increases plant growth!

anyone interested in participating with their myco. solution? Seems like there are a few different products out there and it is impossible to compare them with the currently published information we have. I was thinking of a test with some simple plant like basil, to not use up room in the grow closet with a experiment, and maybe an experiment where we mix it with something like earth worm castings and observe the fungi growth.
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read about the soil food web. Googling this or reading the book, the soil food web by jeff lowenfels will give you all the evidence and knowledge you need about bacteria and fungi. It actually is pretty standard to all gardens and dirt and some special moves should be made with comtainer gardens and or any soil where chemical ferts or P products over 10 have been used.

Chem salts kill your beneficial organisms in the soil. I use rooters myco for 10 dollars, and super plant tonic, and worm castings and compost tea (which is all you ever rally need) to get the beasties back or into my soil. Also I feed them some molasses to feed them. Once in the soil the plant will attract the ones it likes. Most annuals will choose an endo fungi and the bacteria to go along with it. It will need bacteria more than fungi in the soil but all plants need the myco for the roots.

Plants without myco are pathetic I have seen in many photos, right next to plants easily twice as big. It is a big deal to have myco, also let ferts need to be used.
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read about the soil food web. Googling this or reading the book, the soil food web by jeff lowenfels will give you all the evidence and knowledge you need about bacteria and fungi. It actually is pretty standard to all gardens and dirt and some special moves should be made with comtainer gardens and or any soil where chemical ferts or P products over 10 have been used.

Chem salts kill your beneficial organisms in the soil. I use rooters myco for 10 dollars, and super plant tonic, and worm castings and compost tea (which is all you ever rally need) to get the beasties back or into my soil. Also I feed them some molasses to feed them. Once in the soil the plant will attract the ones it likes. Most annuals will choose an endo fungi and the bacteria to go along with it. It will need bacteria more than fungi in the soil but all plants need the myco for the roots.

Plants without myco are pathetic I have seen in many photos, right next to plants easily twice as big. It is a big deal to have myco, also let ferts need to be used.
I was not questioning if the stuff works at all, the question I was trying to answer is:
Product A cost X money,
Product B cost Y money.
Will I get more benefit from A B
--- or ---
X Y

each place that sells the spores sells a slightly different product, I use an expensive product that is super concentrated. Would I save money with a less expensive product, or is it just diluted or not as alive. Maybe one place stores there stuff for a long time and it is mostly dead. Maybe a trace of one product is as good as a lot of another. Does one product work much better due to stronger strains regardless of how much is applied. These are the kinds of questions I look to investigate. Make sense?
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I was not questioning if the stuff works at all, the question I was trying to answer is:
Product A cost X money,
Product B cost Y money.
Will I get more benefit from A B
--- or ---
X Y

each place that sells the spores sells a slightly different product, I use an expensive product that is super concentrated. Would I save money with a less expensive product, or is it just diluted or not as alive. Maybe one place stores there stuff for a long time and it is mostly dead. Maybe a trace of one product is as good as a lot of another. Does one product work much better due to stronger strains regardless of how much is applied. These are the kinds of questions I look to investigate. Make sense?
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This product has potential. http://www.super-grow.biz/MycoMaxx.jsp
They are taking my original product, repackaging it and marking it up.
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the source matters... myco apply is not the best....



Products were tested by Western Labs. The lab tests 50ml samples of product. To put the data into perspective Ron Wallance, a well known Giant Pumpkin grower, had his cover crop soil tested. His spore count was 600, showing that common Mycorrhizal products are lacking in potency. Although Western Labs has said that anything above 30 is considered 'good'.
The product from RTI that appears in these charts is Pumpkin Pro. We settled on the 3000 figure because our counts varied from as high as 10,000 and down to 1500.







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Guess it comes down to who you want to believe. That would be a feeling thingie, not a fact.

http://www.mycorrhizae.com/index.php?cid=167

Each one will pose somebody's "independent research" to push their products. It's all about the money.
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