I don't post alot as you can tell by my post count but I have been at this a while now.

So the question better explained

If you are breeding two plants which is the better way to cross them?

Strain A - top quality landrace with both male and female plants

Strain B - a hybrid that carries traits that the breeder would like to keep and have in the landrace again with both male and female plants

So if Strain A is the target strain to keep but a trait from Strain B needs to be added to it which is the better way to cross them

Strain A female to a Strain B male

OR

Strain B female to a Strain A male

Anyone with good experience in breeding and crossing strains have any good advice?

DS

I've heard that the female usually dominates. I think sometimes though there can be dominant males. I would double cross if you're looking for stability down the line.

It doesnt matter male or female. Its all about the genetic pheno and genotype cross.
If ones dominant say height whether its from male or female it will be tall.
Sometimes though a male or a female will be more likely to have a certain trait associated with it.
Id breed strain a female with the male B. Then plant those seeds and pick out the ones that look like strain A and go from there next gen.

Next gen you can isolate a certain pheno, or you can keep breading to get a varied gene pool, (try and find that CRAZY pheno).

Then you can always take those seeds and if they start to lose the traits you wanted back in Strain A or B then you can back cross.

That means taking the current gen seeds and breeding it with a seed plant from the earliest lineage. Lamp

I currently have the following that I want to breed,
tell me which way you think I will have the best
chance to get the results I am looking for.

Results wanted
Short flowering time
Close node spacing
Fast rooting clones
Sweet citrus smell
Weight when finished
Plants and their traits

Plant A ( male and female, strain A )
fast flowering time 7-8 weeks
very very close node spacing
Fast rooting clones
No citrus or fruity smell
great yeilder in SOG

Plant B ( male and female, strain B )
Long flowering time 10-11 weeks
very spread out nodes
semi fast rooting clones
TONS of citrus smell
to tall for SOG
this one also carries a bad hermi trait

Which way do these need to be crossed to stand the best
chance to get the results I am after,,,,,

Strain A female X Strain B male
Strain B female X Strain A male


DS

i've heard to get that single trait you want from the said strain...you could look for the recessive male of said strain.

recessive males are ones that show later than females

keep in mind, these are some notes from a friend thas a good very knowledgeable breeder, and i may have gotten something wrong...but ill check for you

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Thanks for stopping by lb.
Any notes you could find on it would be great, and anyone else with breeding notes that show which way is the best way to carry on a certain trait is would be good to.
there are only 10 grown out at any give time, the keepers are moved to work with them and the others are flowered on out and forgotten.-> better explaination (1. one mother - one clone 2. clone flowered - best mother kept 3. other mothers flowered)

if you're going for landrace, you would breed males and females that in your opinion are the BEST representation of their breed.

if breeding medical pot and looking for recessive traits such as color or massive resin quantities, you work with finding recessive males.

if trying to in breed a strain, select your phenotype, select your growth qualities, and selectively in breed male to female from each generation. you can back breed to the mother if variation begins to take away from your gq's in the third generation, but remember that a true ibl is one that is 6+ inbred generations.

imo, the BEST way to breed is by growing thousands of seeds, all kinds of strains. from the greatest, you'll come across one or two that stand waaaaay above the rest, for their own reasons. THESE are MY breeders, the super moms, pot to end all pots! from there, i would use a method from those described above, depending on what i was wanting to accomplish by breeding.

you should always have an idea of where you want to be before you begin. this is especially true with breeding. have a plan, and work toward making that plan reality.

hope this helps!

told ya i get ya some help ds

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thanks kp2 and lb for bringing this info my way.
unfortunatly i cannot do thousands at once, but i have been pecking away at this now for close to two years on one particular strain. everything was going great until that he she showed up then all bets were off and i have been fighting this issue for about 6 months now. I think i have it under control but i wont know until this next set of seeds drop. If it is good to go then I will be bringing in a pheno from a land race that I like alot. Guess that will take another two years to get under control.

Thanks again for the help guys

DS

ok ur going to have to "test cross" the two strains...so that u know what traits are dom and recessive...in the plants..by growing out the f1's..and taking notes..then stable-ize strain A and strain B for the traits u want.via IBL (its the fastest) when they breed true for what u want, you can cross them and go from there...it real hard to tell u over the net because it alot of info&time if u want a new stable strain...a good book is cannabis breeders bible by greg green...now if u just want some beans to grow then get two pure/true breeding strains and do a f1 cross and grow them and have funn......MEANGREEN.....