I just ran across this priceless video and would like to share it with all those that are interested in learning or love stealthy advanced techniques.
This method works A+ indoors. you can basically keep your lil 250 watt hps five inches away from the top canopy for the whole flowering stage and pull six easy ounces off one plant. Keeping your light as close as the chart shows will result in more lumens/foot candles resulting in xx large yields.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7V1BgwLPAmQ

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Nice.... never seen it quite like that here is what i do
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also i like to bury the pot abt halfway under ground. the nice thing aabt having it in a pot is u can move it if need be, also when fertalizing it stays in the plants soil and doesnt dispers into all the soil around. so it doesnt really matter wether its gonna rain or not. also with the pot u can throw a cver over it to switch those veg's into flowering if you want to beat that harvest time

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dope video. what a great way to gorilla grow. in ones own yard

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thats definetly cool. as for 6 oz's from a 250,

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Yes I am that experienced. I did that decades ago, I began growing in either 1972 or 1973, and I have told many people about doing that, though I did it slightly different and I will explain, and untold numbers of people have laughed at me after hearing/reading about it.

I do not like damaging a stem to make a plant lay down so I wait until there is enough growth to bend the plants. I would either make a strong wire frame, like using a coat hanger or something similar but longer, and bend it so it would be close to the ground and then tie the plant to it as it grew. I tried using something that would run horizontal to the ground and I tried ones that were bent like an ‘M’ but with more curved tops than pointy like the letter and I also would dig a shallow narrow trench, like an inch deep and an inch long, and would bend the stem until I could place the stem in the trench and then using a small ‘U’ or ‘V’ shaped piece of coated metal or plastic I would ‘stake’ down the stem and cover it with soil. As the plant grew each location that was in a trench would push out new roots so as the plant grew it not only grew more above ground but also grew a larger more efficient root system.

Another way to do it, though not as stealthy but it works in say a vegetable garden, is to build a low trellis and when the plant grows up to the lowest wire tie it to the wire and then bend it and continue to tie it to the wire as it grows. Depending on how wide the trellis is you may be able to grow all on one wire and if it is narrow you can have several wires and when the plant reaches the end of the wire you let it grow up to the next wire and repeat what you had previously done.

The same basic thing can be done indoors with pots. You just need to grow from pot to pot, if doing the trench/rooting thing, or build/make something to attach wires to and then grow around and around and around and back and forth in something of an LST sort of system but without a net and keeping everything tied down more.

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Very interesting Brick Top.
I especially like the way you created new rooting points along the way.

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That was for two reasons. One of course was for a larger better more efficient root-mass but also to help hold down the plants so all the stress would not be on the stem under the ‘U’ or ‘V’ stake I used to hold them down with.

I cannot help but wonder if the expert who made the video ever thought of doing what I did?

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im doing a outdoor scrog at my uncles house this year. he has a run down garden about 20'x20' that for years has grown 8'tall grass in it. were going to take a 8"x8" area in the center and put 4 girls in there(from my NL stock, VERY low odor when flowering) and put a screen up. thats 64 sq feet of nothing but even canopy, it ought to be great!

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I saw Brick-Tops method happen all by itself because of rabbits.. They chewed the bases and toppled them pretty early season, but the grower was an old man who just put seeds in the ground and let whatever will happen happen.. with the secondary root systems they looked like arches, and he figures the plants that survived yielded more than they would have if grown to the sky..

bump for those looking for game!