Sugar, Blueberry.

orangejuice857 · #1 03-22-2009, 10:55 PM

Ive read in one of my growing books that some people 'inject' sugar into the stalks to make them grow bigger, better ect.

my question.

If you were to inject a blueberry extract or something would it grow 'blueberry buds' or what would happen.

experimental question. i was going to attempt it on one of my plants.

lampshade · #2 03-23-2009, 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by orangejuice857

Ive read in one of my growing books that some people 'inject' sugar into the stalks to make them grow bigger, better ect.

my question.

If you were to inject a blueberry extract or something would it grow 'blueberry buds' or what would happen.

experimental question. i was going to attempt it on one of my plants.

Well i have actually never heard of somone injecting a fluid directly into the stem. Placing excess sugar into the plant basicacally stunts the leaf growth and forces the plant to grow flowers or fruit until the sugar is back to normal levels. So it would work. However by injecting i imagine you would burst many cells and damage the xylem and possibly the phloem. You would be much better off misting the bottoms of the leaf with a sugar solution dissolved in water. As leaves absorb large molecules such as sugar. You could also apply at the roots as most growers do but the roots are really inefficient at absorbing complex molecules like sugar.
Blueberry jam would contain adequate sugar but it contains lots of perservatives and dyes that will kill a plant. Your better off going with molasses or corn sugar/syrup. Lamp

holmes · #3 03-23-2009, 01:49 AM

please inject the blueberry jam in one of your flowering plants, and you should document it.
im going to die laughing but you might stumble on to something.
good luck

Jester88 · #4 03-23-2009, 02:45 AM

LMFAO
What a fucking stupid idea

you should pimp slap whoever told ya that

or burn the book... if it was a book i think its rubbish

what is your mate jeleous and want you to kill the poor thing????

also these people telling you to try it prolly know itsa bad idea and like killing peoples plants...

bottom line dont do it

its the same kinda dodgy trick as sugar water feeding to make it way more but at least feeding it sugar waterit can only soak up so much

but id still slap anyone that sold me sugar water bud....

sorry if i went overboard but that idea is a bit out there, overboard and full of abolute shizenhouzen (SHIT) in my views

but good luck lol

p.s the plants make exactly what they need.. grow them right and use the right ferts at the right dose and youll get big buds.
that wont taste like shit

peace out again
j88

if im wrong please feel free to get someone to neg rep me... cos ill deserve it ie:MOD OR A ELITE perhaps
but all i cn see it doing is killing or making the plant taste like shit or even (burnt sugar).. if ya can get it to burn..

heres an idea y not shake a can of orange flavour fizzy drink on it and let it dry same thing it will only make it weigh more if it dont die.
well i figurd while where on the bullshit thread i might as well join the crew lol

orangejuice857 · #5 03-23-2009, 07:20 PM

First, I wasn't going to use blueberry JAM, extract is what I was talking about.

Second, I got the idea from the "marijuana Grower's Handbook" by Ed Rosenthal, in one of the questions at the end of the book, one of the readers asked if he could use a hypodermic needle to inject a minute amount of sugar into the stalk, instead of using a soaked needle and thread(which was crystallizing and becoming a pain on the reader). Ed responded saying it was a good idea (the hypodermic needle part) and that this is what the Giant Vegetable gardeners use to super-size their plants.

Jester88 · #6 03-23-2009, 08:02 PM

wow go ed rosenthal

but i wasnt talking about the jam idea and i dont see how suagar would be and good.. sugars bleached. and more refined dude.

but ehy im no scientist tho lol

im subscribed.. im intrigued
but yeah i dont even like the molassses idea so i guess im a bit biast
peace
j88

holmes · #7 03-23-2009, 09:29 PM

it would not hurt to try on a test plant, it would be fun to see what happens. Unless the benefits were dramatic i would not bother injecting glucose into the plant

lampshade · #8 03-23-2009, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Jester88

wow go ed rosenthal

but i wasnt talking about the jam idea and i dont see how suagar would be and good.. sugars bleached. and more refined dude.

but ehy im no scientist tho lol

im subscribed.. im intrigued
but yeah i dont even like the molassses idea so i guess im a bit biast
peace
j88

What are you trying to get out of the extract a blueberry taste?? Anyhow i found a real scientific report where they injected radioactive sugar (radioactive so they could find it later) into potatoe plants. They didnt go on to explain the results, but it proves that it can be done with no adverse effects. Apparently the best way to inject though isnt the way Ed recommends it. You should simply cut off a leaf and leaves as much of the petiole (the stem of the leaf) as you can, then use the hole in the center of the petiole to inject your solution. You will probably have to cut off the tip off the petiole to reexpose the xylem/phloem.

Go here: http://www.springerlink.com/content/5185170670638106/
Lamp

holmes · #9 03-23-2009, 09:37 PM

are all sugars in the same form?
the starches or carbohydrate that the plant stores in the leaves, are they in the same form as the glucose you would be injecting?
can the plant readily use it in the form that it is in, or would it have to digest it?

lampshade · #10 03-23-2009, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by holmes

are all sugars in the same form?
the starches or carbohydrate that the plant stores in the leaves, are they in the same form as the glucose you would be injecting?
can the plant readily use it in the form that it is in, or would it have to digest it?

All of it is readily available plants are always combining glucose with fructose to make sucrose then turning that into pyruvate. Its a cycle that never ends. We call it the calvin cycle. So most natural sugars are alaways useful to a plant.

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