well we could discuss personal energy and its effects on plants which i feel to some degree is a valid consideration


Yea id definitely have to agree with you, your good intentions, or intent projected on the plant can have some good effects, especially if you have strong intent. i cant complain

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so we still gettin arrested for this or what?

Im gonna go with experience. Without your plants will probably not grow to the full potential. There is plenty of products to help and but without experience how will you know what you plant needs.

three words- Low Stress Training

tying those girlies down has done by far the most noticable growth increase over any product or nute. i plan on tryng atami's bloombastic on my next grow, and from what i can see through the forums, i may prove myself wrong at a later date...

there is so much that has already been said. I am a big picture guy. I have trouble looking at any one particular aspect. The Soil. The Lights. The Water. The added CO2. The added UVB light. The Nutrients. One is integrated with the other.....someone else said the environment. Yea, its how it all fits together. The genetics. The growers GreenThumb. The Weather (indoors or out ... it still changes your ambient environmental factors). For me hard to pick one. My next improvement in my grow will likely choosing sometyhing other than the local garden shop garden variety potting soil ..... and like some have said .... coco coir and perlite ..... I sorta want to try that ....but see there are cautions to getting is right ...so some research is needed. Great Thread!

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I noticed no one mentioned pot size i feel this is a factor worth consideration. Less plants in larger pots can yield more than alot of plants in small pots. I also find you have more margin for error with nutrient using larger pots and in general less chance of deficiencies.

-defiant-

I have 2 55 gal.plastic barrels with my gutters draining into them never had a problem.

I treat them like a weed and i have had good luck sneaking tiny clones into my moms garden so i can let her do the work...

lol palehawaiin, good shit. I'v noticed that type of trend also around my way lol

But yea ill second that larger pot size notion, like metioned you have a more room for error on nutes, mishap on watering. But also more roots mass and possibly to have ALOT of good benefitial microbes attached to your roots so they can grab any and everything outa the soil. And plus the veg time is kind to yeilds

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so we still gettin arrested for this or what?

I just read another post in this thread about that Atami stuff.. guy said he got over 40% increase in yield..

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im using an advanced nutrient product called bud factor x. now i know some dont like advanced but it seems this product does have an effect and kicks my plants into high gear. i also highly recommend hempy bucket style grows indoor or out.