Uncle Ben's Topping Technique to Get 2 or 4 Main Colas
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Uncle Ben
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Happy it works for you. It's not a silver bullet, just another technique of managing your garden.
UB
KlosetKing
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Hey, first time grow AND first post, thought id drop a line and say thanks for all the useful info UB (and everyone else whos chimed in) ive been browsin the site for a while now, and have learned many things, but topping for a few more colas, has to be one of the better tips ive read recently. iam dealing with a very small space (a closet thats 2ft deep, 5 feet wide, and about 6ft tall), 6x54watt T5 fluoros for a total output of about 25k lumens, and only intend on growing 2 or 3 plants at a time. yield vs space has been my primary concern (this whole project is designed for me to cut out dealers, save some money, and live off of my own supply) and i think it might help my eventual goal of having 2-3 ounces a month usable without huge dry periods in between harvest.
dunno why i went into depth about that part, probably just to show how useful your tips have been! thanks again, and happy growin UB!
dunno why i went into depth about that part, probably just to show how useful your tips have been! thanks again, and happy growin UB!
Uncle Ben
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Welcome to RIU and the thread! Plan your garden and grow your plan.
Uncle Ben
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Cotyledons don't have petioles nor are there any dormant buds located at their junction (I don't think). I'll get off dead center and stick some seeds into some dirt and do the experiment I said I was gonna do - start 4 seedlings, let them grow a bit, top 2 above the cotyledons and top the other 2 above the 2nd node. I did this once before but forgot the results. I'm 99% sure nothing happened above the cotyledons. We'll see.
You can play games with auxins all you want, this one is just easiest for me as I don't have the patience to deal with the maintenance of LST or SCROG. All of these training drills is a matter of redistributing auxins. Auxins are hormones that direct cell division and elongation in the terminal leader (apical dominance) while inducing some degree of dormancy in the lateral branches.
I don't think I ever posted these before, but this is an oldie (page one of the 4 Main Cola topping thread) that clearly shows the cotyledons, 1st and 2nd node topped for 4 main colas.
top view:
side view:
Hope this finally ends the confusion.
Tio
You can play games with auxins all you want, this one is just easiest for me as I don't have the patience to deal with the maintenance of LST or SCROG. All of these training drills is a matter of redistributing auxins. Auxins are hormones that direct cell division and elongation in the terminal leader (apical dominance) while inducing some degree of dormancy in the lateral branches.
I don't think I ever posted these before, but this is an oldie (page one of the 4 Main Cola topping thread) that clearly shows the cotyledons, 1st and 2nd node topped for 4 main colas.
top view:
side view:
Hope this finally ends the confusion.
Tio
Charmwah
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Hey UB, i've got a question for you.....
I've read the thread from start to page 62 and i'm losing the will to live with people asking the same questions over and over again. Can you reccomend a form of sustenance to get me through the next 100+ pages or does it get any better from here on out
For what its worth i'm throwing +Rep at you and B2KSpam for pure patience and perseverence.
P.S do you regret making the post in the first place yet
I've read the thread from start to page 62 and i'm losing the will to live with people asking the same questions over and over again. Can you reccomend a form of sustenance to get me through the next 100+ pages or does it get any better from here on out
For what its worth i'm throwing +Rep at you and B2KSpam for pure patience and perseverence.
P.S do you regret making the post in the first place yet
Uncle Ben
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You're losing the will! Hah! I've tried with emails to senior mods to forward this message to RIU. For some fucked up reason, RIU locks out the thread starter from editing his own thread. No other forum, cannabis or otherwise, does this.Hey UB, i've got a question for you.....
I've read the thread from start to page 62 and i'm losing the will to live with people asking the same questions over and over again. Can you reccomend a form of sustenance to get me through the next 100+ pages or does it get any better from here on out
I would have a FAQ on page one to answer the same ol same ol lame questions if given the editing feature.
IOW, take it up with RIU, not me.
UB
Danielsgb
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UB, I'm gonna try this on my 2 fastest growing plants. I fed them a N watering (25% Fish emulsion strength) before bed yesterday. By today they are taking off. Is it best to do before the lights go out, or first thing in the morning? I clip under the white wire right? (riddleme answered it for me
) I'm thinking one more day to let the feeding take effect more. Or is it better to do before it kicks the new growth out? Thanks again UB
Mainly just wondering if you think I should wait a bit.
) I'm thinking one more day to let the feeding take effect more. Or is it better to do before it kicks the new growth out? Thanks again UB Mainly just wondering if you think I should wait a bit.
DaveCoulier
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Daniel, you should be more worried about the poor health of your plants, instead of topping them.
Charmwah
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I've managed to get to page 105, and its apparent that theres a lot of people trying their hand at horticulture for the first time with weed, without any prior knowledge of botany, or even the common sense to read up a little first. Nobody even seems to want to check a dictionary for the term 'node'. If ever there was a need for creators to edit a thread its this one.
Now every piece of information you've given thus far makes perfect sense to me, even tho i'm a relative noob growing mary. I like to think that growing my own herbs & veg for the last 15 years has given me a little heads start mind
That said, I hope all the people starting their gardening with weed go on to find growing tomatoes, peppers & spuds etc just as enjoyable...
riddleme
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Hey Dave
Those are clones he has been nursing, I've been following his grow
Uncle Ben
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I agree, clones or not, now is not the time to remove any foliage. Green 'em up, get the vigor going and then worry about training.
Great! Thanks for writing, (you and everyone else.)
Yep. Enter cannabis specific products, charts, labels, claims and all. It's easy pikin' hehe.
I hear dat.
You're light years ahead of most folks as plant culture knowledge is transferable across most plants.Now every piece of information you've given thus far makes perfect sense to me, even tho i'm a relative noob growing mary. I like to think that growing my own herbs & veg for the last 15 years has given me a little heads start mind
OK fellers, sowed dem seeds this morn, 4 Styro-cups. Will see how this plays out regarding their health (pythium anyone?) as I gave them the same unsterilized crap I used to do other stuff in one gallon pots. I mean this mix is the pits, hell, I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy, hah.
I literally dumped bags of CHEAP topsoil, shovel loads of partially composted horse manure that's been sitting out in a pile, caliche from a pile in the field to offset the acidity of peat, etc. into my tractor's bucket and mixed with a dirty shovel. Only organic nutritional value is from the compost and the peat. Top of pots were dressed with Polyon, a 12 month slow release 18-4-8 pellet with micros. Genetics should be excellent - potent, dense, stocky plants. It is one of my crosses - C99 X (C99 X Peak19), the latter being that bomb in the Spin-out thread. Probably shouldn't have used them as I doubt if I'll grow them to maturity. This is just an experiment for you guys.
Happy Frieday,
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DaveCoulier
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Looking forward to your little experiment UB. Its a shame you wont be growing them out. Alot of people would enjoy seeing you do a grow journal. Plus you'd be able to shut up some of the nay'sayers out there. If not, you can just send me clones and Ill finish it for you hehe
monkeeboi69
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hey bro this is exactly what i was looking for or who i was looking for. i got a question, i got 10 nodes going on... is it to late to try and pull something like this off? i can post pix if you like.(if that helps)
i apologize if anybody has asked this already.
i forgot to add that its indoor and its under a 150 watt hps 5 gallon pot i believe and its pretty tall...
i apologize if anybody has asked this already.
i forgot to add that its indoor and its under a 150 watt hps 5 gallon pot i believe and its pretty tall...
DaveCoulier
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You can top near the top and you'll get a bushier plant, but you wont end up with 4 main tops. Id also hate to chop back down after letting the plant get to ten nodes. Id just flower it as is, and on your next grow you can try topping.
Uncle Ben
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No one knows what tomorrow brings. I'm sure as hell not gonna do a grow journal to appease anyone but me.Looking forward to your little experiment UB. Its a shame you wont be growing them out. Alot of people would enjoy seeing you do a grow journal. Plus you'd be able to shut up some of the nay'sayers out there. If not, you can just send me clones and Ill finish it for you hehe
Now, being that I got flamed at PG on my last outdoor grow while being praised for it at TCC only to be later banned at TCC for not buying into the organic hysteria, shabby local politics and AN co-dependents..... this after doing grow journals at OG, CW, and PG all of which went down in flames.......why in the hell would I care what any FUD mongers think?
I'll just sit here sippin' my tequila and lime, blowin' a J now and then listening to Rosie Flores' song, Boxcars.
UB
I would top it really low. if you want large colas and a sturdy plant. This is how I do mine. I like to veg them a long time...
ultimate buds
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just thought id add this pic as i found it usefull hope it helps someone
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