umm yas do realise theres lots of diffrent ways you can even spray some on the leaves and theyll work....

but just for the record ours were almost always concentrated liquid solutions (sometimes gels and powders and what not but namely liquid hormone solutions)
that we had to water down (dont use tap water u probly could but y would you really)..

ummm and apart frm some of the other places we got them from some hydro shops will stock various ones... you really only need to focus on a few points as i said..

we found these to be best (sorry but if you know what your liquid is its easy enough to apply and measure....

also be carefull which hydro shops you go to.... ya dont wanna go in there leavin traces back to you from a snitchy owner....

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All good Mine grows wicked bud, he likes to show off........
Read a heap of studies on Liquids vs Powders.... Powders or crystles are most common in PURE form, ive found.
Ga3 1% Paste can only be made from powder. (for a stem application)

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same with the shop we sometimes frquent.... but its still good advice... before he owned the hydro shop it was a no go zone. had to go to oe even further away....

also i vaguely remember making paste out of some of the hormones and using them on the stems (this was ma mates not me i just helped . like i said i just got hormones to compliment the plant after doin my studies i fountthat this is what i like to do... not too often with paste tho.... like i said mainly liquids and gels for us tho when possible...
we done this all a while ago tho. thats y i appologise i cant remember or say more than i am atm.

im not the guy who wants to fuck other peoples grows up... i do however like to help and learn new things..

and dont worry i will start brushing up.... gotta read yourthread again but the whole thing and not skim it cos i recogise parts. id say your pretty close to the right track but (like i said you can fuck up the plants with hormones it just depends what you call a fuck up)

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great thread and great research +++ , i'll be sticking around , this stuff is feeding my knowledge.

Welcome.... thanx...... maybey get involved with a few experiments??

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A Sketch of an 8 Part Plant Hormone Theory

BEST READ I HAVE HAD YET !


http://www.planthormones.info/

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New Group Of Plant Hormones Discovered

ScienceDaily (Aug. 13, 2008 — Scientists from the Wageningen University Laboratory of Plant Physiology and an international team of scientists have discovered a new group of plant hormones, the so-called strigolactones. This group of chemicals is known to be involved in the interaction between plants and their environment.
The scientists have now proven that strigolactones, as hormones, are also crucial for the branching of plants. The discovery will soon be published in Nature and is of great importance for innovations in agriculture. Examples include the development of cut flowers or tomato plants with more or fewer branches. These crops are of major economic and social importance worldwide.
The growth and development of plants is largely controlled by plant hormones. Plants produce these chemicals themselves, thus controlling the growth and development of roots and stems, for example. A number of plant hormones, such as auxins, giberellins and cytokinins, were discovered by scientists decades ago. Now a new group of hormones has been found: The so-called strigolactones.
Previous research by institutes including Wageningen UR has shown that strigolactones plays a major part in the interaction between plants and their environment. As plants cannot move, they commonly use their own chemicals to control the environment as best as they can.
Strigolactones are of major importance to the interaction between plants and symbiotic fungi, for example. These fungi live in a symbiotic relationship with plants, lthat is mutually beneficial. They transport minerals from the soil to the plant, while the plant gives the fungi sugars ‘in return’.
Unfortunately, the strigolactones have also been “hijacked” by harmful organisms: They help seeds of parasitic plants to germinate when plant roots are in the vicinity. The seedlings of the parasite attach to the root of the plant and use the plant’s nutrients for their own growth and reproduction. Unlike the symbiotic fungi, however, they do not give anything in return. On the contrary, the parasitism often causes the host plant to die, eventually.
The international research team consisting of French, Australian and Dutch scientists, coordinated in France, found mutants of pea that were branching without restraint. It turned out that these pea plants were not capable of producing strigolactones. When the plants were administered strigolactones, the unrestrained branching stopped. The same effect occurred in an entirely different plant, thale cress. The mutant plants also caused a significant lower germination of the parasitic plant seeds and induced less interaction with symbiotic fungi.
The scientists also showed that a specific ‘receptor reaction’ for the strigolactones occurs in plants, a phenomenon that is characteristic for plant hormones. Although some previously discovered plants with unrestrained branching turned out to be producing strigolactones themselves, their receptor connection was disturbed: Strigolactones administered from the outside could not stop the uncontrolled branching.
It has also been shown that the plants are capable of transporting strigolactones internally and that the chemicals work at very low concentrations, two other typical characteristics of plant hormones.
It is expected that this new knowledge will be applied in agriculture and horticulture, for example in breeding and the development of branching regulators.
Cut flower varieties and potted plants with either more or less branching may have special ornamental value, while crops with more or less branching may be beneficial in cultivation. Tomato plants in which less branching occurs can benefit the greenhouse horticulture, for instance.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0812100327.htm

Another good read

Genes Key To Hormone Production In Plants Identified
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0403131915.htm

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Bong in hand ... I was thinking about the fact we could re-create the exsisiting shape and pre conceived growth patterns......
So in theory we could develop a dwarf SOG strain.....with NO branchs and bigger cola......
Has there been a "DESIGNED" SOG plant developed???
If not that is not a bad goal........

Which - comes to a `crazy` setup theory.... If that was the case, we can alter there size & shape . Then we could build smaller spaces ( ie: draw ) useing less light (in turn less heat) and still max our yeild per watt.


I dont know why but a old morge keeps coming up in my head.. corps tables = grow tables pull it out and we have a thick blanket of 8 inch buds.......LOL

Or you could turn it into a vine...... grape or rose like canopy. Over a driveway or graden tressel.


With a combination of hormones you could alter ALL growth indicators to what the grower desires...... big, little, wide, tall, a vine, a tree, etc.............. with gene`s to a degree still a limiting factor.

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i will help with some cheap small experiments

Welcome...... good to see some people donating time and plants to the cause!
Have you read much of the thread? What is your intrest ??

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