HORMONES Vs Co2 - Hormones cheaper potentially yeild same ! - Page 2

eza82 · #11 01-05-2009, 08:35 AM

HELP HELP HELP HELP HELP

recruiting people who want to conduct small test with various different hormones at different times !!!????

BUYING ALL INGREDIANT IN PURE FORM..... 1grm at a time ... . Come in gel cap form.... CHEAP ( $1 - $30 ) Multiple crops...
DONT HAVE SUPPLIERS YET SO HELP THERE TOO.
have seen around though.. should not be hard

THE EXPERIMENT....................

Measure the ripening of unripe BUD induced by the plant hormone ethylene, with increased light 19/5 example
Determine if plant size could be increased by manipulating / regulating 6-ben,IAA,GA3 hormone,ETC
What is the role of hormones in synchronizing ripening?
The Effect of same Hormones on different strains
The effect of different concentrations of the plant growth substance IAA and gibberellic acid on the growth of roots and shoots
Compare rate of plant growth using two different growth hormones
The effect of estrogen on the growth of veg
The effect of Rootone hormone on plant growth - which i thinks been cover by PANHEAD &fddblk : Root gel and some experiments

Effect of Different Concentrations of IAA on Root Initiation
Simple experiments to explain the role of phytohormones in plants
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The effects of plant regulators (auxins and cytokinins) on different strains
Abscisic acid for seed germination and enhancement of its catabolism by gibberellin

ETC ETC ETC

Basiclly FUCK with the major groups..........auxins, gibberellins, ethylene, cytokinins, and abscisic acid.

eza82 · #12 01-05-2009, 10:44 AM

Growth and Plant Hormones - Plant Biology
http://www.biology-online.org/11/10_...t_hormones.htm

Growth

All living organisms begin in the same form: as a single cell. That cell will divide and the resulting cells will continue dividing and differentiate into cells with various roles to carry out within the organism. This is life and plants are no different. Plant growth can be determinate or indeterminate, meaning some plants will have a cycle of growth then a cessation of growth, breakdown of tissues and then death (think of a radish plant or a tomato plant) while others (think of a giant cedar tree) will grow and remain active for hundreds of years. A tomato plant is fairly predictable and is said to have determinate growth, while the cedar tree has indeterminate growing potential. Development refers to the growth and differentiation of cells into tissues, organs and organ systems. This again all begins with a single cell.

Plant Growth Regulators and Enzymes

Genetic information directs the synthesis and development of enzymes which are critical in all metabolic process within the plant. Most enzymes are proteins in some form or another, are produced in very minute quantities and are produced on site—meaning they are not transported from one part of the organism to another. Genetic information also regulates the production of hormones, which will be addressed shortly. The major difference is that hormones are transported from one part of the plant to another as needed. Vitamins vital in the activation of enzymes and are produced in the cytoplasm and membranes of plant cells. Animals and humans utilize plants in order to provide some vitamin resources. In general, hormone and vitamin effects are similar and are difficult to distinguish in plants, and both are referred to in general as plant growth regulators.

Groups of Hormones

Plant hormones are chemical messengers that affect a plant's ability to respond to its environment. Hormones are organic compounds that are effective at very low concentration; they are usually synthesized in one part of the plant and are transported to another location. They interact with specific target tissues to cause physiological responses, such as growth or fruit ripening. Each response is often the result of two or more hormones acting together.
Because hormones stimulate or inhibit plant growth, many botanists also refer to them as plant growth regulators. Many hormones can be synthesized in the laboratory, increasing the quantity of hormones available for commercial applications. Botanists recognize five major groups of hormones: auxins, gibberellins, ethylene, cytokinins, and abscisic acid.

Other Growth Regulators

Many growth regulators are widely used on ornamental plants. These substances do not fit into any of the five classes of hormones. For example, utility companies all over the country often apply growth retardants, chemicals that prevent plant growth, to trees in order to prevent them from interfering with overhead utility lines. If is less expensive to apply these chemicals than to prune the trees, not to mention safer for the utility workers. Also, azalea growers sometimes apply a chemical to the terminal buds rather than hand-pruning them. Scientists are still searching for a hormone to slow the growth of lawn grass so that it doesn't have to be mowed so often.

Plant movements

Plants appear immobile because they are usually rooted in one place. However, time lapse photography reveals that parts of plants frequently move. Most plants move too slowly for the passerby to notice. Plants move in response to several environmental stimuli such as: light, gravity and mechanical disturbances. These movements fall into two groups: tropisms and nastic movements.

Tropisms

A tropism is a plant movement that is determined by the direction of an environmental stimulus. Movement toward an environmental stimulus is called a positive tropism, and movement away from a stimulus is called a negative tropism. Each kind of tropism is named for its stimulus. For example, a plant movement in response to light coming from one particular direction is called a phototropism. The shoot tips of a plant that grow toward the light source are positively phototropic.
Phototropism
Phototropism, as mentioned, is illustrated by the movement of sprouts in relation to light source direction. Light causes the hormone auxin to move tot he shaded side of the shoot. The auxin causes the cells on the shaded side to elongate more than the cells on the illuminated side. As a result, the shoot bends toward the light and exhibits positive phototropism. In some plant stems, phototropism is not caused by auxin presence or movement. In these instances, light causes the production of a growth inhibitor on the illuminated side of the shoot. Negative phototropism is sometimes seen in vines that climb on flat walls where coiling tendrils have nothing to coil around. These vines have stem tips that grow away from the light, or better put, toward the wall. This brings adventitious roots or adhesive discs in contact with the wall on which they can cling and climb.
Solar tracking is the motion of leaves or flowers as the follow the suns' movement across the sky. By continuously facing toward a light source, moving or not, the plant maximizes the light available for photosynthesis.

Thigmotropism

Thigmotropism is a plant growth response to touching a solid object. Tendrils and stems of vines, such as morning glories, coil when they touch an object. Thigmotropism allows some vines to climb other plants or objects, thus increasing its chance of intercepting light for photosynthesis. It is thought that an auxin and ethylene are involved in this response.

Gravitropism

Gravitropism is a plant growth response to gravity. A root usually grows downward and a stem usually grows upward; that is, roots are positively gravitropic and stems are negatively gravitropic. Like phototropism, gravitropism appears to be regulated by auxins. One hypothesis proposes that when a seedling is placed horizontally, auxins accumulate along the lower sides of the root and the stem. This concentration of auxins stimulates cell elongation along the lower side of the stem, and the stem grows upward. A similar concentration of auxins inhibits cell elongation in the lower side of the root, and thus the root grows downward.

Chemotropism

Chemotropism is a plant growth response to a chemical. After a flower is pollinated, a pollen tube grows down through the stigma and style and enters the ovule through the micropyle. The growth of the pollen tube in response to chemicals produced by the ovule is an excellent example of chemotropism.

Nastic Movements

Plant movements that occur in response to environmental stimuli, but that are independent of the direction of the stimuli are called nastic movements. These movements are regulated by changes in water pressure in certain plant cells.

eza82 · #13 01-05-2009, 11:33 AM

MAKEING GIRLS!!!!!

CARBOHYDRATE-NITROGEN RATIOS WITH RESPECT TO THE SEXUAL EXPRESSION OF HEMP
- use of ethlyene
- real intresting read...

http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/pag...01&pageindex=1

eza82 · #14 01-05-2009, 01:03 PM

QUOTE JESTER:i am a mad scientist too i spose so yeah ill help with what i can. and have some free time to figure out somethig constructive to contribute..

but for now we only used to play with root growth..
and bud size we. didnt really play with the veg growth too much for reasons stated who wants to grow a plant thats gonna get spindly nd crush under its own weight when we start boostin it in bud ya know..

we done few different things but yeah mainly tried to stay along those lines. that being said there are ways to do thuis throughout the whole plant growth but we never got that to bee 100 percent perfect everytime....

could go on for hours but ill leave it at that fpr this one.
i need a billy lol
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MANIPULATE it all... lets breed FREAKS! so.......Veg growth is stage of life..The auxin is a hormone with controls cell growth and spliting, so in saying that feed the right Hormone in Veg the plant may strech alittle but we can syth` it so it will produce more nodes and stem girth (which would be strenght)...... by adding more Abscisic Acid or Auxin based hormone should stop lenghting altogether.

eza82 · #15 01-05-2009, 01:04 PM

We could only try ! BREED MONSTER OUTDOORIES.......

eza82 · #16 01-05-2009, 01:28 PM

QUOTE JESTER: the doses vary depends on what your doing and you want them too do..

mainly we just used them to promote root growth and then to aid in flowering (generally bud size and a little of growth...)

the results were good (but i disagree with the whole you cant fuck it up.... depends what you call a fuck up...

like i said i found for me i used some a bit after the plant was established to promote root growth ( you could probably strait away but i treated the as etra nutes on account i liked to use nuts to aid with growth and hormones for flower and root..

the others were all the same as me really we varied our experiments only one of us ended up sticking with the hormones for the whole growth after he figured it out.... but his results werent much different sometimes worse sorry to say

so will you still be using nutes?????

i only used the hormones that helped with what i wanted my plant to do

if i wanted it to help bud id just start using it a week before to a week after id want too

from memory a good guide would be.

roots.... id advise as soon as you think your plant can take it...

growth once the plants established

i say this because rapidly growing it too fast has bad results we found.. who wants to grow a tall pindly plant then ake it grow big buds itll snap.. like i said treat them as nutes that you know exactly what they are gonna mqake your plants do.

give me some time to brush up and what not and yeah im in.... its been a while as i said ive been in troable a fair few times in the last years. had to settle down.
and like i said there was a few of us ill find out and do a little something up for you when i get the time..

sorry about this i had written a way more detailed rply tha this one but fucked it up..

ill see wht i can do for ya tho. ill just go catch up wid ma mates and brush up n then do a write up 4 ya if i can

its not as complicated as it sounds so dont worry. but like i said use them when you think theyle help with what theyre supposed to. just lookafter the plant dont let it get spindly

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Yes, I will still use all NUTES indoors ( dutch grow gold, pk13, superthrive, aussie majic juice)
Though the juice and Superthrive will go due to not knowing whats in them.....
But may dilute some dramaticlly outdoors..... EC say of 1.0
Outdoors.... just have organic fertz though. Fish and seaweed emulsions etc

And it timing I am most worried about fucking up!

oscarmiya · #17 01-05-2009, 01:46 PM

Lol, Wow.

- I must admit, I havn't read but a few paragraphs before I realized I will need more than 45 min to and hour reading this and comprehending it all. Seems interesting though and will start reading more tomorrow, subscribed. Time to watch some Conan.

eza82 · #18 01-05-2009, 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oscarmiya

Lol, Wow.

- I must admit, I havn't read but a few paragraphs before I realized I will need more than 45 min to and hour reading this and comprehending it all. Seems interesting though and will start reading more tomorrow, subscribed. Time to watch some Conan.

LOL....cant miss conan! And it will probably take 1hr or so to get through, and to get really involved and try to apply, its now become a full time study subject for me....LOL

eza82 · #19 01-05-2009, 04:31 PM

WILLOW WATER form of indolebutyric acid (IBA) " growing tips of willows contain high concentrations of IBA.........."

In the fifth century B.C., the Greek physician, Hippocrates, wrote that chewing bark of a willow tree could relieve pain and fever. (No wonder squirrels don’t get headaches.) In 1829, the effective ingredient, salicin, was successfully isolated from willow bark. Toward the end of the 19th century, The Bayer Company in Germany trademarked a stable form of acetylsalicylic acid, calling it “aspirin,” the “a” from acetyl, “spir” from Spiraea (the salicin they used came from meadowsweet, Spiraea ulmaria, subsequently renamed Filpendula ulmaria), and “in,” a common ending in drug nomenclature.
In the 20th century, over one trillion aspirin, the first medicine created by techniques of modern chemistry, were consumed globally to regulate blood vessel elasticity, reduce fevers and aches, prevent cardiovascular ailments, affect blood clotting, or ease inflammation.
Native Americans and early settlers used willow bark for toothaches and applied it to the source of other pains. But they also recognized that you can actually grow a whole new tree by taking a stem and sticking it in moist soil. The hormones in willows cause rapid rooting, and they discovered these same hormones could induce rooting in other plants, too.

Willow waterTo harness this power, they made a tonic called “willow water” by collecting willow twigs, trimming the leaves, immersing the stems in a pail of water, and pouring the water on newly planted trees, shrubs, and bedding plants. Commercial rooting preparations contain a synthetic form of indolebutyric acid (IBA) and growing tips of willows contain high concentrations of IBA, depending on the quantity used and length of time you soak them. Any willow (Salix) tree or shrub species will work.

Another discovery: In the January, 2004 issue of The Avant Gardener, a monthly newsletter to which you can subscribe for $24/year at Horticultural Data Processors, Box 489, New York, N.Y. 10028, editor Thomas Powell notes that gardeners reported all sorts of plants growing remarkably better when given regular doses of tiny amounts of aspirin (1 part to 10,000 parts water; larger doses actually proved toxic),” and that The Agricultural Research Service is investigating the reasons behind aspirin’s beneficial effects.
Plants make salicylic acid to trigger natural defenses against bacteria, fungi, and viruses. Aspirin thus is an activator of ‘Systemic Acquired Resistance’ (SAR). However, plants often don’t produce the acid quickly enough to prevent injury when attacked by a microbe. Spraying aspirin on the plants speeds up the SAR response. Tests have shown this works on many crops, producing better plants using less pesticide. “It also makes it possible to successfully grow many fine heirloom varieties which were discarded because they lacked disease resistance.” Powell says.
Scientists first encountered the SAR phenomenon in the 1930s. After encountering a pathogen, plants use salicylic acid as a key regulator of SAR and expression of defense genes. “Only recently have companies begun marketing salicylic acid and similar compounds as a way to activate SAR in crops—tomato, spinach, lettuce, and tobacco among them,” according to Powell.
“ARS scientists are studying plants’ defenses, such as antimicrobial materials like the protein chitinase which degrades the cell walls of fungi, and nuclease enzymes which break up the ribonucleic acid of viruses. They’re also testing aspirin and other SAR activators which could be effective against non-microbial pests such as aphids and root-knot nematodes,” Powell says. “This may be the most important research of the century. Stimulating SAR defenses with aspirin or other activator compounds could result in increased food production and the elimination of synthetic pesticides.”
He recommends we experiment by spraying some plants with a 1:10,000 solution (3 aspirins dissolved in 4 gallons of water), leaving other plants unsprayed. Tests have shown that the SAR activation lasts for weeks to months. (Sort of homeopathic heart attack prevention for your plants.)

Make your own willow water:
by gathering about two cups of pencil-thin willow branches cut to 1-3 inch lengths. Steep twigs in a half-gallon of boiling water overnight. Refrigerated liquid kept in a jar with a tight-fitting lid will remain effective up to two months. (Label jar so you won’t confuse it with your homemade moonshine.) Overnight, soak cuttings you wish to root. Or water soil into which you have planted your cuttings with the willow water. Two applications should be sufficient. Some cuttings root directly in a jar of willow water. Make a fresh batch for each use. You can also use lukewarm water and let twigs soak for 24-48 hours.
Ilene Sternberg is a freelance writer and amateur gardener with a certificate of merit in ornamental plants from Longwood Gardens, Pennsylvania and a former garden guide at Winterthur in Delaware.

http://www.bluestem.ca/willow-article1.htm

THIS WOULD BE CHEAPER THAN PUTTING ROOTING POWDER IN WATER ALL TIME..

holmes · #20 01-05-2009, 05:28 PM

damn you man, now i have to think about hormones!!
fuck.
good job by the way

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