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~ Growth Stimulants
The B-vitamins (1 ppm solution) increase the yield of hempseed and its fat content, but somewhat suppresses the growth of leaves, stems, and seed hulls. Potassium permanganate in weak solutions stimulates the development of cannabis in all its phases. Dilute camphor also stimulates plant growth. Vitamin C (1-5 parts in 10,000 water) has the same effect. The ripening of cannabis flowers can be accelerated by addition of a tablespoon of sugar per gallon of nutrient solution. Do not use this treatment during the initial stages of the flowering cycle, because flowering will be delayed instead. Auxigro, manufactured by the Auxein Corp. (Lansing, MI; www.auxein.com; US Patent 5,840,656) contains 4-aminobutyric acid, L-glutamic acid, etc.). It increases fertilizer efficiency severalfold and improves plant growth up to 50%. Nutrient accumulation also is increased dramatically. Triacontanol is a fatty alcohol found in many plants. It increases growth rates and yields up to 25%, and increases the protein content, even during darkness when plants usually are dormant. Triacontanol seems to enhance the growth of plants without increasing their consumption of nitrogen. The simplest way to use triacontanol is to plow under a crop of alfalfa, which contains relatively large amounts of the substance. Triacontanol is extracted from sunflower seeds or alfalfa by chloroform; filter and evaporate the solution to yield crude triacontanol. The dosage is 1 ppm in water.
Carbon Dioxide
--- Plants utilize atmospheric carbon dioxide to supply their carbon. The current level of atmospheric CO2 is about 350 ppm. If the level of CO2
in a closed growing space decreases to below 200 ppm, growth will cease. Levels above 2% can be injurious to both plants and animals. When cannabis is cultivated indoors, the rate of growth and photosynthesis can be enhanced by increasing the concentration of carbon dioxide to about 0.2%. The effects are most influential in the second month of growth. The rate of growth can be increased about 50% by increasing the level of CO2 to about 700 ppm. If the level is increased to 1,500 ppm during the vegetative phase, the growth rate will increase up to 80%. The number of females also increases slightly under the influence of CO2 . When extra CO2 is supplied during the flowering phase, the flowers will mature about 2 weeks sooner, and they will increase in weight about 20%. To alculate the amount of CO2 required to enrich a growroom, first select the level of CO2 you desire (assuming 300 ppm atmospheric CO2 ). Multiply the cubic feet of the grow space with the corresponding factor (given below) to determine how many cubic feet of gas are needed to raise the level for each cycle of enrichment. The cycle is repeated as the plants absorb the gas or it is vented outdoors (necessarily when the room temperature rises to 85o
F). Commercially available equipment will do this automatically. For 1,000 ppm, factor (.0007) x cubic feet to determine the requisite volume of gas. 1,100 ppm = (.000; 1,200 ppm = (.0009); 1,300 ppm = (.0010); 1,400 ppm = (.0011); 1,500 ppm = (.0012).
Gibberellin
--- When seeds absorb water, the hormone gibberellin (gibberellic acid-A, GAA) appears in the embryo and activates the metabolism to initiate sprouting. GAA has been widely tested in applications to hemp. When applied to cannabis at a rate of 100 ppm in water for 2 months, GAA increases the thickness and internodal length of the stock. The terminal nodes are weak, branching is suppressed, and the roots develop poorly. Germination is stimulated by GAA, but leaf growth and the production of chlorophyll and cannabinoids are reduced proportionately. GAA treatment does not hasten the generative development of hemp, but does promote plant growth. The stem diameter increases about 250% over control plants, and the fresh weight of the stem increases 300%. Treated plants have a higher ratio of bark:wood. The number of fibers increases up to 100%. According to G. Davidyan, the greatest effect is achieved with 0.005-0.01% GAA applied before the buds form. R. Herich tested the histological reactions of hemp by soaking the seeds in 5 ppm GAA for 24 hours with these results: "The plants showed the following differences from untreated controls: decrease of stem thickness, less lignification, decreased bark development especially in lower parts of stems, decrease in number of secondary bast fibers, increase in number and size of primary bast fibers, and increased differentiation of parenchymatous pith tissue".
(63)C.K. Atal also described the effect of GAA on hemp: "Gibberellin-treated plants showed a greater number of fibers as compared to controls. The individual fibers were larger in diameter, more lignified, and up to 10 times as long as the fibers from the untreated plants."
(64)F. Yanishevskii studied the effect of GAA on the nitrogen metabolism of hemp: "Stem lengthening took place mainly by cell extension. Net weight even decreased somewhat. Chlorophyll concentration decreased noticeably... Plants treated with GAA contained less N than controls. GAA exerted a considerable influence on the N metabolism of hemp plants: in treated plants the amount of protein N decreased 2-fold, but, in contrast, the soluble forms of N increased markedly. Treatment with GAA had almost no effect on the content of N fractions of cell components (nuclei, plastids). Nucleic acid content decreased mainly owing to decrease in the amount of RNA. Accumulation of soluble forms of N under the influence of GAA would indicate that the introduction of nitrogenous fertilizers (as recommended by Witter and Bucovac) would hardly make up for the unfavorable effect of GAA on the N metabolism of hemp."
(65)N. Yakushkina and L. Chuikova also tested the action of GAA and Indole-Acetic Acid (IAA, auxin) on hemp: "GAA intensified the growth of the plants, the average dry weight per plant, the photosynthesis rate, the sugar content (especially of the stem) and that of total N, and the respiration rate, but decreased the content of chlorophyll in the leaves. The separate application of IAA caused a decrease in the growth and yield of the plants, and a considerable increase in the chlorophyll content, but decreased the photosynthesis rate. The simultaneous application of GAA and IAA was accompanied by the highest increase in yield, but this addition of IAA did not exert any substantial influence on the physiological processes.
" (66 )GAA also increases the length of the growing season. GAA will inhibit the formation of flowers on Cannabis; it must not be used during the flowering phase of growth. GAA will accelerate the onset
of budding by about 7 days. Treatment of plants with 25 mg GAA/liter results in 80% of the plants being male. Female hemp usually undergoes sex reversal to a male expression, but few of the male plants produce female flowers. Thus, G. Davidyan and S. Kutuzova reported: "Gibberellin causes the formation of male flowers, containing fertile pollen, on genetically female plants."
(67)V. Khryanin treated dioecious hemp with GAA (25 mg/liter) and produced monoecious feminized staminate hemp from the common pistillate form: "Gibberellin, as a hormone of the plant organism, probably depresses genes which participate in the formation of flowers which have been repressed. "Thus GAA can be used by breeders to develop monoecious cannabis from dioecious forms. Preliminary tests are necessary to determine the most effective concentration and best timing for each cultivar.
The effect of GAA is removed by abscisic acid (ABA), which will initiate flowering. Treatment of plants with ABA (10 mg/liter) results in all plants being female or bisexual. The ABA can be overcome by increasing the concentration of GAA.

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gibberellic acid-A, GAA & Abscisic acid ABA - IS GOING INTO MIX !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Still undecided on where............... will get back to you.
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MAKE YOUR OWN GAA:
Gibberellin is extracted from cucumber seeds, fresh cantelope seeds, dried corn kernels, and from pencil rod, lupine, and pinto beans. Soak 200 grams of powdered seeds in 110 ml of a mixture of acetone (10 parts), isopropyl alcohol (5 p), ethanol (2 p), and water (5 p). Filter the mush and rinse it with 20 ml acetone and 20 ml isopropyl alcohol. Combine the rinse and the mother liquor, then evaporate the solvent. Dissolve the gum in alkaline water for experimental use.
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So you sparay at first sign of buds ? How many times and how much of it ? Sry if ive asked this -stoned

Cytokinin as kinetin
Which are the adenine-type cytokinins that are synthesised in stems, leaves and roots.
Adenine-type cytokinins represented by kinetin ARE; zeatin and 6-ben to name a few.

As per bottle:
Tomato bloom II
Active ingredients:
Cytokinin as kinetin based on biological activity 0.00008%
Inert ingredients 99.99992% INERT- MEANS its clean fill.(plasebo)

Tomato Bloom Spray II has natural hormones that provide biological grow power to promote flowering, increase blossom set and increase fruit yield. In addition to tomatoes, beans, cucumbers, eggplants, melons, okra, peppers and many other vegetables will often bear earlier when treated with this product. Spray the flowers and adjacent foliage with Tomato Bloom Spray II until thoroughly wet. No mixing, no fixing, just point and shoot! Repeat as blossoms appear at weekly to 2-week intervals.
Back in the OG days, there was a grower that turned me on to this product. I spray them once right when I see buds forming, or around 2 weeks into flowering. If I spray at the right time, I get incredible growth in regards to the whole plant as it seems to promote bud growth and vegetative growth as well. I have tried using it at later times, one time it seemed to really mess with the plant. The others it seemed to do nothing. I did side by side comparisons with ak47 and chronic and both of the pants I sprayed increased in size and had bigger buds at the end. But then again I did side by side with WW, sprayed them around 3 weeks of flower and the one I sprayed was stunted. So it's hit or miss. In other words, use at your own risk. I have not used any other hormones, but I got into it and read up on them like crazy at one time. I'm a firm believer in the benefits of calcium, LST and the fact that calcium is the carrier of auxins. I get incredible growth supplimenting with Ca when I grow using LST. I have done side by sides with this as well and each and every time the ca. plants were much healthier and bigger.
Same goes with using alfalfa in veg-this is something I will never NOT use as an amendment, but only in veg.
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to fully understand.... I would never have dwarf probs, sick plants, always grow beyond its parents, yeild better every time...etc
NOBODY TOLD ME THIS WOULD BE SO TECH!

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RECRUITING PEOPLE WHO WANT TO CONDUCT SMALL TEST WITH VARIOUS DIFFERENT HORMONES AT DIFFERENT TIMES !!!????

BUYING ALL INGREDIANT IN PURE FORM..... 1grm at a time ... . Come in gel cap form.... CHEAP. DONT HAVE SUPPLIERS YET SO HELP THERE TOO.
have seen around though.. should not be hard
Also use natural forms such as willow water, asprin etc


THE EXPERIMENT....................

-Measure the ripening of unripe BUD induced by the plant hormone ethylene, with increased light 19/5 example
-Determine if plant size could be increased by manipulating / regulating 6-ben,IAA,GA3 hormone,ETC
-What is the role of hormones in synchronizing ripening?
-The Effect of same Hormones on different strains
-The effect of different concentrations of the plant growth substance IAA and gibberellic acid on the growth of roots and shoots
-Compare rate of plant growth using two different growth hormones
-The effect of estrogen on the growth of veg
-The effect of Rootone hormone on plant growth - which i thinks been cover by PANHEAD & fddblk { Root gel and some experiments } with GOOD results
-Effect of Different Concentrations of IAA on Root Initiation
-Simple experiments to explain the role of phytohormones in plants
-The effects of plant regulators (auxins and cytokinins) on different strains
-Abscisic acid for seed germination and enhancement of its catabolism by gibberellin
-Phase breakdown of naturally produced hormones and ballster exsisting
- ETC


Basiclly Bolster all hormones adn consintrate our efforts with the major groups..........auxins, gibberellins, ethylene, cytokinins, and abscisic acid.

IVE GOT SO MANY QUESTIONS THAT CAN ONLY BE ANSWERED BY DOING THEM I THINK...... info on projects are hard to find!


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Take a few seeds...stick'em in some dirt...add water...big budz...Oh how we deceive ourselves...*l*
????????????? So what your saying is DONT.... lol
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ALL OF THIS INFORMATION SCATTERED THROUGH THIS THREAD I HAVE COMPILED ON THIS THREAD FOR REFFERENCE::

HORMONES/PGR`s/VITIMANS - RESEARCH THREAD ONLY.
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SILICA:
Why is silica so important for your plants?


Various research projects conducted over the past 40 years (coupled with regular feedback from users of SilikaMajic) have shown that the presence of silica (SiO2) in plant tissue produces many beneficial side effects:

+ Increased stem strength and rigidity - once silica is taken up by the roots, it is deposited in the plant’s cell walls as a solid silica matrix equivalent to quartz. This structure produces stronger and more rigid cell walls and hence a ‘mechanically’ stronger plant. This enables better leaf orientation for receiving light which in turn enhances photosynthesis and growth rates.
+ Improved healing of pruning wounds - silica enables pruning wounds to heal more quickly and neatly. This property is especially beneficial in commercial cropping of plants such as tomato and cucumber where regular pruning threatens the plant's survival.
+ Increased fruit weight - accumulation of silica in plant cells can result in higher fruit weight.
+ Increased leaf strength - improved resistance to wilting, particularly noticeable during hot weather. + Increased tolerance to high salinity - silica has been shown to reduce problems arising from nutrient toxicity (e.g. sodium, chloride) and/or imbalance.


Why silica additives are needed in hydroponics

The silica (SiO2) content in the leaves (etc.) of 'soil grown' plants ranges from 1-10% of their dry weight. This silica is potentially supplied from both the feed water and the soil:
Feed water: Natural (i.e. uncontaminated) waters commonly contain around 5 mg/L soluble silica. Hence soil grown plants potentially enjoy a feed of soluble silica each time the plant is watered.
Soil: Sand is composed largely of silica, therefore, the roots of soil grown plants are immersed in a potential "silica reservoir". Although this form of silica is very insoluble it does dissolve slowly - especially with alkaline waters.


However, plants grown in hydroponic systems without soluble silica supplements, typically contain much less silica in their cells. This occurs because, unlike soil grown plants, silica is virtually absent at the root-zone:
Recycling systems: Once the plant consumes the silica present in the make-up water, no more silica is available. Of course if either rainwater or RO (reverse osmosis) water is used, no soluble silica is present.
Inert mediums: Unlike 'soil', inert mediums are unable to yield silica.
Research shows that the absence of silica in hydroponics can cause plant health to be less than optimum.

*Note, silica cannot be included in concentrated nutrient formulations because stable silica solutions are by nature highly alkaline. It must therefore be added separately.



When to use Silica?

Silica should be used from seed to harvest: Consistent with predictions based on silica’s general insolubility, electron microscopy and x-ray analysis both confirm that once deposited, silica can no longer be redistributed within the plant. Consequently to benefit all growing areas of the plant, silica must be present at all times in the nutrient solution.

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Default Revised feed & dose
Revised----
& includes silica dose as folia.

This is also a useable template for you to change to your own nute etc and print....
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File Type: zip FEED&DOSE CHART 13WK CYCLE.zip (4.6 KB, 2 views)

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you know, you can edit, and upload file, to your previous post..., just FYI

that sounds like some potent hormones!
hormones work differently or, possibly, not at all, on various different plants.
if you narrow your search down by genus you might have a more pertinent,
condensed, list.

I'd like to try just a few at once to see what the combined effect is, although,
by just increasing one hormone, the others will increase also, to catch up.
it would just be impossible to try them all at once. as I said before, I am utilizing ethylene during key stages of my grow. (well see how that works out, ha)

and you might create that plant from "the little shop of horrors"!
you don't want your weed to 'smoke' you! LOL
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