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Old 11-26-2008, 09:21 AM
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Default colloidal silver and making fem seeds
i have made crosses and make clones but want to produce fem seeds of some clone only strains in socal. i have grown herm seeds before with 100% success i plan to use colloidal silver as opposed to light stress or gibberelic acid. i am only going to treat a few branches so light stress is not the way i want to go. colloidal silver is safest but i am willing to consider giberellic acid although it causes stretchcing and is toxic. i would like input from anyone who makes fem seeds with either of these methods thanks.
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no one out there makes fem seeds?
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do not use gibb acid. U dont want to eventually smoke that shit

use light stress
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best way is the silver i believe thats how the breeders do it here is a link
How to make Colloidal Silver to make Feminized seeds
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i try to avoid fem seeds because i dont like stressed plants
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thanks for everyones input. i have looked online and you can purchase very high ppm colloidal silver. if i can find a supplement store locally with a high concentration i will just use that if not i will make some with electricity. before i was trying to copy genetics by making a cross and then crossing it back again and again to the desirable strain to get seeds close to the original that method takes years and is time consuming so i think the silver is the way to go and in no way toxic to humans at reasonable levels. i may start drinking some myself it kills many species of microrganisms any other thoughts welcome
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There is a difference between health store colloidal silver, and the more 'ionic silver solution' we desire.. Colloidal silver for consumption is a 'colloid' mainly composed of small clusters of neutral elemental silver (~15 atom clusters is common), while we want a 'solution' with more Ag+ (aq)..
If you were to consume ionic silver it would just form a bunch of silver chloride in your stomach..
Consider the chemical treatments like silver nitrate, and silver thiosulfate etc.. Those agents have already proven their effectiveness at impeding the ethylene pathways in the plant to sufficiently induce intersex flowers, but they would not possess any elemental silver in solution, or colloid form at all, only Ag+ ions, and alot of impurities from the cations and other compounds formed in solution.. Thats why its my belief that the presence of sufficient Ag+ ions in solution (like electrolysis provides) is the important thing, and that impurities are usually unimportant..
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i would make it yourself i have read up on the process a bit and it seems easy enough. just have to get ppm's high enough so a good ppm meter would be a must
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Actually you can't use the number from a ppm meter directly.. They are essentially very sensitive AC ohm-meters that measure the resistance and convert that to ppm based on the conductivity of likely ions in the solution.. If Ag+ conducts differently than the more common ions its calibrated for then the ppm would be drastically off.. It may even be drastically off regarding fertilizer ions too, but as long as its consitently off it doesn't really matter since we can use the EC (a more proper term than ppm) to determine how it needs to be adjusted..
Actually, different brands of ppm meters use different scales to calculate a ppm number.. American and European standards are slightly different..
So you can't really guage EC against ppm unless you can ask somebody who has produced it successfully what kind of EC/ppm reading they obtained.. Labs and experiements you find on the net will be citing true molar (particle count) based ppm, not EC derived..
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thanks for the input. does anyone know what the minimum ppm i will need for spraying?
 

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