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Old 11-19-2008, 05:31 PM
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Default Breeding Beneficial Bacteria and Microbes
In looking and searching the multitude of beneficial bacterial, fungi, and microbes available (Mayan Microzyme, Myco Madness, Voodoo Juice, Piranha, and Tarantula, to name a few) and after being amazed at the enormous prices, I was wondering if it would be possible to actually breed your own bacteria?

I'm not actually talking about creating your own bacteria, more like buying one package of Piranha, then introducing it into an environment that allows it to thrive, and multiply. This way you could take half of the 'offspring' and use it on your plants, leaving the other half there to reproduce again. Any thoughts on if this is possible? And if so, how would one be able to do it?
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Dr. Earth and Happy Frog are two dry fert sources of many beneficial microbes, and I think they're fairly priced (relatively, organic does seem to be more expensive at this point). But, if you like, it can be done. Search organics for Ohsogreen's posts, I'm sure he's spoken about culturing microbes before in teas.
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Keep it simple MG potting mix,bag of gardenlime,bag of perlite,some superthrive,and some miraclegrow liquid houseplant food.Then when its time to "BUD" ,bat turd and kelp.
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you can bubble a big tea of them organic goodies, but tbh i don't know exactly how long you could stretch it for (i generally had some bubbling for a few days before using it all...)

i've always used soil secrets earth nectar and earth ambrosia

very fairly priced, and def has a lot of microb action going on

if i was still doing soil grows i'd def use it again!
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Old 11-19-2008, 05:50 PM
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Keep it simple MG potting mix,bag of gardenlime,bag of perlite,some superthrive,and some miraclegrow liquid houseplant food.Then when its time to "BUD" ,bat turd and kelp.

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thats simple?

simple is 100% perlite w/ gh 3 part micro and bloom. 2 teaspoons of micro: 1 teaspoon of bloom per gallon of water for veg

reverse the ratio for flower


as simple as it gets!
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Old 11-19-2008, 06:00 PM
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Yeah, I'd have to say that Hempy buckets with the Lucas formula is just about as simple as it gets.

I prefer coco as my medium. If I was growing in soil I really wouldn't be too concerned about adding bacteria. And I've actually never used them in any of my grows, but mainly only because of the price. I havn't seen earth nectar or earth ambrosia before though ....

I'll look into Ohsogreen's posts and come back with what I have found out, if anyone else is interested.
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"and after being amazed at the enormous prices"

What was the price of the AN product/s that gives you the bacterial, fungi, and microbes...
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that's what i love about the EA/EN stuff...

10-20 bucks for bottles of the both of them to last ya a while...
check it out on ebay, best prices there straight from maker!
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I think Voodoo Juice was going for about $80 a liter, Piranha and Tarantula were both around $45 or $50 for 130 g, Mayan Microzyme was $35 for 8 oz, and Myco Madness was about $50. I don't remember how much was in it though. Why do you ask Jonus?

I did a search for Ohsogreen's posts in the organic section, and got about 144 different threads all about shit! Literally, cow shit, bunny shit, bat shit, you name it. Haha, I just wasn't really expecting so many posts about shit. Anyway, I've walked through about 10 threads of his so far, and can't find anything about bacteria cultures. Can anyone point me in the right direction? I'm trying, just can't find what I'm looking for.

And yes Lumberjack, I'll look into the EA/EN stuff. Sounds good and cheap, but how does it compare to the AN products? They are crazy over priced, but have way more microbes, fungi, and bacteria than any other brand I have seen, which is why I would really like to be able to buy just a little bit and breed my own, if at all possible. That way you can just buy one 50 g package and never have to buy any more ever again, ideally at least.

I'm also looking into Super Plant Tonic stuff that Ohsogreen is bragging about. Every try it Lumberjack? I wonder how it adds up. It's super cheap, but usually the cheaper the product the lower the quality ... although certainly not always.
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The only thing I can add if you intend to make up your own micronutes or active fungi....is to test it out first on some plants outside to get the dilution right. I've stood in a few grow stores listening to horror stories of dying plants and the problem ended up being them feeding their plants some home brewed mix that was fantastic in every way except for the fact they should have diluted it 1 ml per litre rather than pouring it straight on.
 

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