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Old 11-09-2008, 09:10 PM
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So i wanted to just toss a few ideas around and see if anyone had any knowledge or input on some possible cultivation techniques. Im an agriculture major, and constantly look at my notes and think "could i apply this same lab work to herb?" So thought i'de throw a few topics out there.

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1. colchicine. a pretty common chemical used in gardening to cause a double in chromosomes. Making a diploid into a tetraploid. possible by soaking the seeds in solution or applying cotton balls of the solution to maristem of a young plant. It doesn't always work but lets say you manage it. The possibility of crossing a 4n plant with a 2n plant to make a 3n plant could have some benefits. 3n triploids dont go to seed because of the odd number of chromosomes cant be divided. Also 3n plants sometimes have a vigor not seen in 2n or 4n.
One problem is the idea of using colchicine as it can be a dangerous chemical. Such small amounts used would most likely be completely absent by the 2nd generation (3n plant) but it should always be considered.
Personally i enjoy the idea of complete organics so i don't know if i would really want my herb modified by man but it is an interesting idea none the less. Could there be larger hardier buds? It would be sensimilia and what effect does the increased chromosomes have on thc production.

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2. Hybrid vigor? Heterosis, Another simple one that i'm sure has been tried before? Downside is it takes time space and lots of potential outbreeding depression. But it worked for corn in this country, could it make some crazy herb?

3. Grafting? Iv heard alot of talk about attempting grafting plants onto root stock and the general consensus seams to be failure due to the in-balance in plant mass vs root mass. But what about other possibilities like growing to plants and grafting them together as young stalks so they grow with twice the root mass and twice the plant mass. Seems dumb because you could just have two plants. But there is always potential for vigor and sometimes once the plant has adjusted you can cut back one of the stems above the fuse and and it will have greater chance of surviving (in good health). Also the possibility in different strains being crossed this way?

I have other ideas but ill start here. Just simply for discussion as i do not cultivate.
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Old 11-09-2008, 09:15 PM
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see this is what im interested in wheres the frontlines in marijuaana cultivation wheres the breakthroughs expiraments science shit theres got to be more out there some new awesome badass way to grow or something genetics and stuff
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Old 11-09-2008, 09:28 PM
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I hope to put in alot of time and effort over my life into these ideas and techniques along with others. It is a fun hobby for me, and being in the industry it seems feasible. Not in the USA of course because i am not willing to spend my life in jail. But in a specific other place of low risk....
I love to chat about this stuff so lets all share our knowledge its how advancements happen.
I do however have heart of organics so if anyone has ideas about advanced organic methods, shout out.
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Old 11-09-2008, 09:31 PM
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theres facilitys in america devoted to cannibis reasearch
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this also is a passion of mine...marijuana is not only seducing but unique. Rarely is there so much you can do with one plant...
I like the Idea of a 3n that cannot produce seed, but how do you figure out how this would affect THC and other things without doing it...why cant we make a computer program that does the math and outcomes in seconds so we dont have to breed to find out...now thats more feasible. Wheres them geeks that smoke? We need a marijuana Propensity Breeding Program to do all this without wasting valuable time actually planting plants...
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thats very true. It would make it easy and LEGAL, but at the same time nothing can 100% predict the ability of nature. There are too many curve balls. If one were living in another country and simply had one average size greenhouse devoted, all this and more could be done in a few years. while having lots of tasty bi-products.
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yeah but most of the facilities devoted spend much more time on THC uses and applications (in medicine and elsewhere) as well as commercial hemp. The soil science and culture practices of the actual growth process. Also they are greatly limited in there research tools and what they are allowed to do. The last commercial hemp field was put up on a half an acre in hawaii and had to have barbed wire and advanced security systems.
Individuals in private practice often times make the most crucial discoveries.
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thats very true. It would make it easy and LEGAL, but at the same time nothing can 100% predict the ability of nature. There are too many curve balls. If one were living in another country and simply had one average size greenhouse devoted, all this and more could be done in a few years. while having lots of tasty bi-products.
Yeah your right, lots of variables but one thing, A computer and program dedicated to that could present you with ALL the variables and youd just have to decipher what your seeing in the actual work from what the possibilities "could" be. I think it would be an invaluable resource especially if coupled with a greenhouse...man now I got to go study computer programming...dammit.
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I'v heard of people grafting like orange tree branches onto apple trees, wouldn't it be sweet to have one plant with a few different types of bud growing on it? You get variety and the ease of one plant lol.
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