Fem seeds YES

boricuaboi

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Story by Soma from hightimes

Creating feminized cannabis seeds is an art. Just like art, there are a few different methods of application. I have written about some of my different methods of making seeds in previous HIGH TIMES articles. I have used gibberellic acid, pH stress, light stress, and fertilizer stress to force my female plants to make seeds. All of these methods are harsh on the plants, and some, like the gibberellic acid, are not organic. In my search for cleaner, more earth-friendly ways of working with the cannabis plant, I have found a new way to make feminized seeds.
Feminized seeds occur as a result of stress, rather than genetics. All cannabis plants can and will make male flowers under stress. Certain strains like a higher pH, some a lower one. Some like a lot of food, some like much less. There is quite a lot of variety in marijuana genetics, and you can’t treat every plant the same way.

It takes many harvests before you really get to know a particular strain. Just like getting to know human friends, it takes time. I have grown the same strains for close to a decade, and am truly getting to know every nuance the different plants exhibit. I can recognize them from a distance. I must say that I get a lot of help from my friends, both in making seeds and in learning new and better ways of working with this sacred plant.

I named this new method "Rodelization," after a friend who helped me realize and make use of this way of creating female seeds. After growing crop after crop of the same plants in the same conditions, I noticed that if I flowered the plants 10-14 days longer than usual, they would develop male "bananas." A male banana is a very slight male flower on a female marijuana plant that is formed because of stress. Usually they do not let out any pollen early enough to make seeds, but they sometimes do. They are a built-in safety factor so that in case of severe conditions, the plant can make sure the species is furthered.

To me, a male banana is quite a beautiful thing. It has the potential of making all female seeds. Many growers out there have male-banana phobia. They see one and have heart palpitations, they want to cut down the entire crop, or at the very least take tweezers and pluck the little yellow emergency devices out. I call them "emergency devices" because they emerge at times of stress.

In the Rodelization method, the male banana is very valuable. After growing your female plants 10-14 days longer than usual, hang them up to dry, then carefully take them off the drying lines and inspect for bananas. Each and every banana should be removed, and placed in a small bag labeled very accurately. These sealed bags can be placed in the fridge for one or two months and still remain potent.

For the next phase, you need to have a separate crop that’s already 2 1/2 weeks into flowering. Take your sealed bags of pollen out of the fridge, and proceed to impregnate your new crop of females. To do this, you must first match the female plant and the pollen from the same strain in the previous crop. Shut all the fans in the growroom down. Then take a very fine paintbrush, dip it in the bag of pollen, and paint it on the female flower. Do this to each different strain you have growing together. I have done it with up to 10 different kinds in the same room with great success.

I use the lower flowers to make seeds, leaving the top colas seedless for smoking. This method takes time (two crops), but is completely organic, and lets you have great-quality smoke at the same time you make your female seeds. If you’re one of those growers who’s never grown seeds for fear of not having something good to smoke, you will love this method.

You can also use this pollen to make new female crosses by cross-pollinating. The older females with the male bananas can be brought into the room with the younger, unpollinated females after they are three weeks into flowering. Turn all of the circulation fans on high, and the little bits of pollen will proceed to make it around the room. Do this for several days. Six to seven weeks later, you will have ripe 100% feminized seeds; not nearly as many as a male plant would make, but enough to start over somewhere else with the same genetics.

As a farmer who has been forced to move his genetics far away from where they started, I know very well the value of seeds. My friend Adam from ThSeeds in Amsterdam has a motto that I love to borrow these days: Drop seeds not bombs.
 

ontariogrower

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like million hunderdth freakin time with the same shit JEEEES do a search befor posting the same old shit over and over and over again holy crap

good artical but holy crap
 

Loki7

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Its probably easiesr to use ionic silver...

This is my ionic silver generator... pretty high tech stuff...



Pics of it in action...







-Loki
 

Loki7

Well-Known Member
plus motherfucking rep dude!

can u list directions please

+rep
Ok...

Step 1... Get some 99.9% pure (or better) silver. Coins work well.
Step 2... Get some RO or Distilled water.
Step 3... Get a 9v battery (or any other DC power source 6-12v)
Step 4... Hook that shit up like in the picture. After about 2 hours w/ a 9v the water will look cloudy, like in the pics.
Step 5... Put it in a spray bottle.
Step 6... Mist whatever branches you want turned male. Twice a day, about a week into your flowering cycle.
Step 7... Repeat Step 6 for 2 weeks. Stop when you see the fans leaves get a greyish hue.
Step 8... Don't talk about Fight Club.

-Loki
 

boricuaboi

Well-Known Member
Ok...

Step 1... Get some 99.9% pure (or better) silver. Coins work well.
Step 2... Get some RO or Distilled water.
Step 3... Get a 9v battery (or any other DC power source 6-12v)
Step 4... Hook that shit up like in the picture. After about 2 hours w/ a 9v the water will look cloudy, like in the pics.
Step 5... Put it in a spray bottle.
Step 6... Mist whatever branches you want turned male. Twice a day, about a week into your flowering cycle.
Step 7... Repeat Step 6 for 2 weeks. Stop when you see the fans leaves get a greyish hue.
Step 8... Don't talk about Fight Club.

-Loki
what are the clamps and that siver bar thing Im OCD about things so i need to kno everything to the t lol
 

Loki7

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what are the clamps and that siver bar thing Im OCD about things so i need to kno everything to the t lol
The clamps are just that, clamps. They connect the 9v to the coins. The silver bar between the clamps is just duct tape to keep the clamps from touching each other and shorting out. You can't really see it, but under neath the coins is a bottom of another plastic cup with slots in it, so the coins can't move. You don't need those, technically. I over engineer everything ;)

-Loki
 

CaveChest

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Hey guys!

Ive been looking at making fem seeds, this is my first grow and i'm really having allot of fun with it :D
I heard through the grape vine that if u crush up 2 aspirin tablets per gallon of water (or some combination) it causes male plants to produce entirely female pollen. See i dont know if this works yet but the theory is out there.
I also heard if u add Aspirin water to a female plant it goes hermi AND makes female pollen, thus making the process easier.

For those with grow experience or plants to play with, give this a go and pass on the results.

BTW good thread yo
Cheers
J
 

Toker420

Active Member
Ok...

Step 1... Get some 99.9% pure (or better) silver. Coins work well.
Step 2... Get some RO or Distilled water.
Step 3... Get a 9v battery (or any other DC power source 6-12v)
Step 4... Hook that shit up like in the picture. After about 2 hours w/ a 9v the water will look cloudy, like in the pics.
Step 5... Put it in a spray bottle.
Step 6... Mist whatever branches you want turned male. Twice a day, about a week into your flowering cycle.
Step 7... Repeat Step 6 for 2 weeks. Stop when you see the fans leaves get a greyish hue.
Step 8... Don't talk about Fight Club.

-Loki

Could i just buy colloidal silver online, would that work also?

 

M4A1

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Could i just buy colloidal silver online, would that work also?
No it most likly won't work. The reason we are making it is because we want a higher PPM then what is sold. The stuff online is for human consumption. The stuff we make shouldn't be drank sence it is such a high PPM. When you make it you let it run for several hours. I let mine run for about 8 hours. The water took on a greyish tint. Took a couple of weeks of spraying to get mine to grow pollin sacks, but it eventually did.
 

Toker420

Active Member
No it most likly won't work. The reason we are making it is because we want a higher PPM then what is sold. The stuff online is for human consumption. The stuff we make shouldn't be drank sence it is such a high PPM. When you make it you let it run for several hours. I let mine run for about 8 hours. The water took on a greyish tint. Took a couple of weeks of spraying to get mine to grow pollin sacks, but it eventually did.

Thanx M4!!
 

Busmike

Well-Known Member
Ok...

Step 1... Get some 99.9% pure (or better) silver. Coins work well.
Step 2... Get some RO or Distilled water.
Step 3... Get a 9v battery (or any other DC power source 6-12v)
Step 4... Hook that shit up like in the picture. After about 2 hours w/ a 9v the water will look cloudy, like in the pics.
Step 5... Put it in a spray bottle.
Step 6... Mist whatever branches you want turned male. Twice a day, about a week into your flowering cycle.
Step 7... Repeat Step 6 for 2 weeks. Stop when you see the fans leaves get a greyish hue.
Step 8... Don't talk about Fight Club.

-Loki

Dude, The coins yor're using are 10 % copper. You SHOULD use 99.999% pure silver bars. Any coin shop sells them and there are shitloads on Ebay.

It's also not necessary to use 9 volts. U can use any battery, but the higher the volts and amps, the faster you'll saturate the solution. The FASTEST way is to use a car battery charger.

JUST REMEMBER NOT TO TOUCH THE WATER WHILE THE POWER IS ON!!!!!!! IT CAN KILL YOU.
 

thelastpirate

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Toker, I have read several posts on other forums about this and I believe that the concentration of colloidal silver for human consumption is less than needed for this. You need to make your own, and DON'T try and use it for medicinal purposes!!
 

CaveChest

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DUDES!
I have just tried the aspirin thing, and it works!
I added 2 300mg tablets to a 3-4L jug and it turned my male into a Hermi!
Don't know if the seeds are fem yet but acording to other sources they should be...

just thought i'd let you know
J
 

ripz

New Member
not 100% on this but if you've pollinated female flowers on a male plant havent you just made male seeds?
 

CaveChest

Well-Known Member
Ummm no.

Think about it, the pollen from a male USUALLY makes male or female seeds, regardless of which plant its on the pollen usually has both sexes.

the aspirin is meant to make male pollen female.

J
 

ripz

New Member
if you backcross a female to itself (selfing) you create female seeds because even though it has produced male flowers it is still genetically female why should a male be any different at best you would have regular 50/50 male and fems
 
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