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Old 07-02-2009, 05:41 PM
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I am using it right now. It does what it is supposed to do. FYI, Advanced Nutrients is the best line on the market. Ask any professional grower and they will tell you the same thing. There is a lot of BS on the internet regarding cannabis and how to grow it for yield, quality and all the rest. The fact is, AN is the best fertilizer on the market. Bar none. Some of their nutes are pricey. However, they always perform as advertised. If price is a factor, my suggestion is to buy in bulk. Connoisseur is about the same $$ as Sensi Bloom when purchased in the 4 litre size. Good luck.
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I still like Shultz's etc for soil..
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Old 07-03-2009, 04:28 AM
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Gimme a break.....anyone who uses common sense and the correct procedures is gonna clone with a 9/10 success rate WITHOUT an overpriced Advanced Nute product. This is my problem with these companies, they make these bullshit claims of "perfect stems for cloning" and shit like that. Its a MIRACLE PRODUCT ...yeaaaah right......Pleeeeeeease gimme one, just one ingredient in this stuff that is unique and merits the 40-50 bucks you'll pay for it. Only thing "VHO" is the bullshit on the label. Amazing that some people actually believe this shit. I think its hydro store owners that post this trash. Buuuuut......thats just my opinion.
have you treid it or done any side by side experiments or anything? didnt think so other wise you would have stated so. it doesnt depend on what "ingredient" but the combination. also, the end product depends on how the plant grew during clone and through the veg stage before 12\12. and i know for myself that it greatly improves the clones health and growth vigor. try stuff before you talk it down. so many people forget about the 100's of strains that exist that all need diff amounts of nutes and so forth if you only knew what kind of control AN gives. But i would recommend it only for advanced growers who are looking for more control and those that are beggining should go with the "others" Since they are simple and also do their job, i dont mean all others because i know there are other great nutes. And HESI is unbelievable, i combine the two
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Interesting. P is the main macro used by a plant for producing strong stems, and VHO has no P?

I have to laugh at the crap in this industry that shuns botany in favor of scams.

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i believe that they researched the ingredients and came up with that exact formula through trial, not just what you think, its not an ordinary fert. so not wierd that it differs from what you logically think would work, but whats tested and does what it says to do is something diff, we arent talking about just producing strong stems, more then just strong stems, stems to be used for cloning
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Maybe it contains ground up Philospher's stone and transmutes the toxic salts from the disproportions of N&K to phosphorous containing compounds..
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sounds like to me your a bit of a hater. I agree with you AN is a strong marketed product, but so is atami. AN makes some very nice prdocuts that will out yield the other nutes. I have tried GHE, and atami before i switched to AN. I have had bigger yeilds with AN period. i stay away from their powders since they get my tanks fucking dirty and its not exactly easy to clean or swap out the tanks. So i stay away. The most problem people have with AN is over feeding. Please understand that AN is highly concetrated. So dont use the medium or heavy feeding since you will nute lock your shit. their chart says max ppm at 1600 for the medium feeding but my ppms are above 2000 when i use that schedule.

2 part with everything they offer excpet piranha and tarrantuala with a light feeding schedule and these babys flurish, i am also in NFT so they flourish very fast.
Just remember to leav your system every two weeks with plain water for two days know a thing or two before giving them fresh nutes. I do this to get al the old salts and minerals of the roots some hydrogen peroxide and my roots are white and booming again ready to uptake more nutes. SO yes i agree AN is for the pros that want big yields. If you were in EU you would see hwo the big growers have all switched since 1gpw in SOG with GHE and Atami is not possible. Ask anyone and if they came close 1 gpw with under 15 days fo veg.

So i would say try it befor yo mock it. cause if you have ever read any of the lables you will find a full money back gurantee. I thought about using this before but all though it didnt liv up to the hipe they greated it did out perform the competitors. so yes they are not all that they calim but they are much muc better than the rest. Since no toher company offers bud blood and i can show you pics of ap lants on week 4 ith buud blood and with out and the difference is a week to two more of bud production.
I used i t on a 21 day veged plant and at the end of week one i had bud pistils. by week 4 the cola had almost filled. I mean dont be a jew and spend some mone o your nutes. 200 to 400g more per harvest more makes it weel worth it to me. Good luck with your farm boy nutes. its time to get hi tech.



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Gimme a break.....anyone who uses common sense and the correct procedures is gonna clone with a 9/10 success rate WITHOUT an overpriced Advanced Nute product. This is my problem with these companies, they make these bullshit claims of "perfect stems for cloning" and shit like that. Its a MIRACLE PRODUCT ...yeaaaah right......Pleeeeeeease gimme one, just one ingredient in this stuff that is unique and merits the 40-50 bucks you'll pay for it. Only thing "VHO" is the bullshit on the label. Amazing that some people actually believe this shit. I think its hydro store owners that post this trash. Buuuuut......thats just my opinion.
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Maybe it contains ground up Philospher's stone and transmutes the toxic salts from the disproportions of N&K to phosphorous containing compounds..
It's the of eye of newt tonic and dried frog scrotum that make them so good.
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I am using it right now. It does what it is supposed to do.
....and so does hundreds of other products, for alot less money. It's all about nutrients, not half naked ladies on their website's front page for a draw, silly product names, marketing designs requiring you buy many rather than one (for da really big buds").....it's a racket.

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FYI, Advanced Nutrients is the best line on the market. Ask any professional grower and they will tell you the same thing.
I'm a professional grower and wouldn't touch the line with a ten foot pole. I grow a commercial crop using miles of drip irrigation line to water and inject plant food. I also grow veggies, pot, nut and fruit trees, premium quality wine grapes of the finest clones available, roses, citrus, etc. and I will only buy high quality salts (plant foods) that cost me as little as $1.00/lb. in 25 or 50lb. bags. The salts I buy are so pure that they literally dissolve by themselves with the slightest agitation. The best food I use is a slow release 10 month Polyon product, a 18-4-9 with micros.

Most of the cannabis specific foods can't even get the macros right, with K being much higher than N 90% of the time for the so called "Grow" foods.

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K does add resiliency, but it comes at a price.. If I was making a gimmicky plant food and wanted to claim the things they do I'd toss in alot of K.. Buds will still grow, and vegitative growth will typically look prettier.. Nobody who buys it needs to know they're defacto reducing their yield potential.. Their plants will look pretty and they'll be gung-ho to believe whatever.. Its like selling rain..
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K does add resiliency, but it comes at a price.. If I was making a gimmicky plant food and wanted to claim the things they do I'd toss in alot of K.. Buds will still grow, and vegitative growth will typically look prettier.. Nobody who buys it needs to know they're defacto reducing their yield potential.. Their plants will look pretty and they'll be gung-ho to believe whatever.. Its like selling rain..
My point being, for most of these vendors to pass off a "Grow" food of say, a 3-5-8 is ridiculous. The N and K values are always reversed for some strange reason. A good "Grow" food is more like a 30-10-10, 18-5-9, or a 9-3-6.

When I amend my potting soils, I never add anything that includes K, like greensand. The plant gets all it needs from the compost.
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