True, which your plants are nice. Imagine with your skills what you could do with VHO? It works alone no need for all the AN. I use the rest cause they are also awesome.

maybe its time you tried them and see for yourself then. I have a GIANT beast plant from AN with 300 watt HPS. easily over 10 oz. want proof? check out
supergrowplants on youtube.

Growers are dreamers, and conmen attempt to deliver that dream.

All "cannabis specific" products with their glorious parts A, B, and Z are bullshit...mostly poorly designed marketing schemes aimed at fools.

UB

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Interesting. P is the main macro used by a plant for producing strong stems, and VHO has no P?

I have to laugh at the crap in this industry that shuns botany in favor of scams.

UB

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If you'd ever used VHO you wouldn't question whether it works or not. It's awesome.

And it's easy to point the finger, but there has to be something to the Advanced Nutrients line or Big Mike wouldn't be putting up a million dollar challenge to prove him wrong.

http://www.growersunderground.com/mi...ollarchallenge

Check it out. That confidence has to come from somewhere.

A plant food void in P does not work for shit. Who are you trying to kid?

Like being a good pimp?

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Does that product contain those long chain fatty acids derived from boa constrictors that I've heard such good things about??

At their prices, that's like a day of sales, right? 12 years ago, these $50-250 jugs of stuff weren't even in a hydro store. I saw these prices the other day and almost had a seizure. For soil, I never foliar fed or used anything in my water. I made my own soil with dirt, peat, cow manure, perlite, blood meal, bat guano, seabird guano, fish emulsion. You can actually put some stuff deeper in a big bucket or ground so your girls hit it at a certain point in their grow. If it sounds like a pain, it was. I got off my snobby organic kick(although I will always love organic smoke the best) and went hydro. Even did organic hydro with rockwool(stinkiest reservoir I ever dealt with. You would almost puke). So synthetic it was. I used eco-grow and bloom and learned how to combine the two in varying proportions for different stages. It can be difficult comparing products as one product might naturally compensate for water or soil problems where the other product doesn't. When someone says product x is better than product y, did you check ph and ppc/ec before and after for both? Did they match? In soil, did you do the same? I don't doubt that people get amazing results from this over that. I just think you might have achieved the same result using your original product and adjusting what was wrong soil/waterwise when you were using that.
S.

Why do people complain so much?
I bought a 4 litre part "a" and "b" , for fifty bucks. Do I bitch that it's expensive? No, cause in reality it's gunna grow $20,000 of weed.
It's cheaper than pure blend pro which I used to use and never hear anyone complain about that.

....and so will a $3 box of Walmart plant food. Knowing exactly what you're getting in the box is nice too.

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