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the guy at my shop said use Root Juice. He claims hands down, Root Juice is so much better than Voodoo juice. Any opinions on this?
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advanced doesnt lie. they say its good its probably good. and all you can do is try it...then lend an opinion. otherwise your opinion, as Harry G. Frankfurt would say, is bullshit.
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A few of my plants just 4 wks into 12/12 on nothing but bio bizz grow and bloom base ferts, £10.00 sterling per 1ltr bottle.


Why would i want to go and blow my bank balance on AN shit?
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ive just started on an AN schedule, im just using the sensi grow at the moment and even with just the base nutrients i am delighted with the results. My plants are 4 weeks in veg as of tomorrow and they are about a foot tall and very bushy and healthy looking. I cant wait to start flowering and use sensi bloom, big bud and possibly another addative.
I have used bio bizz's products in the past but i was a bit dissapointed with the results.
In my opinion AN is the way to go, Its not that expensive considering the final product.
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ive just started on an AN schedule, im just using the sensi grow at the moment and even with just the base nutrients i am delighted with the results. My plants are 4 weeks in veg as of tomorrow and they are about a foot tall and very bushy and healthy looking. I cant wait to start flowering and use sensi bloom, big bud and possibly another addative.
I have used bio bizz's products in the past but i was a bit dissapointed with the results.
In my opinion AN is the way to go, Its not that expensive considering the final product.
Are you in hydro? If you had dissapointing results with bio bizz you must have been doing something wrong.

If your in compost/soil, why was you feeding in veg???? That would give you poor results.

Do my above pics look dissapointing for just 4wks of 12/12?
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My .02......... The more aggressive the advertising the more bullshit they are trying to hide.

Ive never tried An stuff and prolly never will.

Pot grows very vigoursously with only npk.

Ive always felt AN users were also members of the Hair club for men!!

Isnt big bud just a kool bloom knock off? Or are they completely diff?
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Are you in hydro? If you had dissapointing results with bio bizz you must have been doing something wrong.

If your in compost/soil, why was you feeding in veg???? That would give you poor results.

Do my above pics look dissapointing for just 4wks of 12/12?
Oh no I'm not putting bio bizz down, im sure they have great potential, a lot of it was probably my lack of experience at the time, i just expected more.

Your buds dont look dissapointing at all either, im simply stating that the AN nutes do absolute wonders for me and I will never look back, Perhaps when I have more space and more grows under my belt Ill be able to get such good results from nutes like bio bizz. but for now AN are giving me those results.
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ive just started on an AN schedule, im just using the sensi grow at the moment and even with just the base nutrients i am delighted with the results. My plants are 4 weeks in veg as of tomorrow and they are about a foot tall and very bushy and healthy looking. I cant wait to start flowering and use sensi bloom, big bud and possibly another addative.
I have used bio bizz's products in the past but i was a bit dissapointed with the results.
In my opinion AN is the way to go, Its not that expensive considering the final product.
I totally agree. I used GH's 3 part base nutes for starters, and was totally disappointed. I was wondering how everyone could say that hydro grew faster, my plants grew slow, looked weak, and shitty. Could be my growing though, not saying it was the nutes. But then I switched to AN's Sensi 2 part and it was like night and day.

I've never used bio bizz's though. The price was about the same, so I figured i'd give AN a shot, and I too will never look back. The performance guarantee helped in my decision as well.

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Are you in hydro? If you had dissapointing results with bio bizz you must have been doing something wrong.

If your in compost/soil, why was you feeding in veg???? That would give you poor results.

Do my above pics look dissapointing for just 4wks of 12/12?
Not to put you down or anything Londoner, but just because you had amazing results with one product doesn't mean that everyone will. Likewise, if I have amazing results with the AN line doesn't mean that everyone else will either. But to tell dannyking he must have been doing something wrong if he didn't get amazing results with bio bizz is just plain arrogant. There are a million different factors that could involve bad results from that product. And there are a million different factors that could influence your grow and how good it is, other than the nutes.

Not to say you didn't grow great bud, that's not what I'm trying to say. Just be easy on putting someone else's grow down. Let him get results the way he wants. Believe it or not, your nutes weren't given to you by god himself, and neither was mine.
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I totally agree. I used GH's 3 part base nutes for starters, and was totally disappointed. I was wondering how everyone could say that hydro grew faster, my plants grew slow, looked weak, and shitty. Could be my growing though, not saying it was the nutes. But then I switched to AN's Sensi 2 part and it was like night and day.

I've never used bio bizz's though. The price was about the same, so I figured i'd give AN a shot, and I too will never look back. The performance guarantee helped in my decision as well.



Not to put you down or anything Londoner, but just because you had amazing results with one product doesn't mean that everyone will. Likewise, if I have amazing results with the AN line doesn't mean that everyone else will either. But to tell dannyking he must have been doing something wrong if he didn't get amazing results with bio bizz is just plain arrogant. There are a million different factors that could involve bad results from that product. And there are a million different factors that could influence your grow and how good it is, other than the nutes.

Not to say you didn't grow great bud, that's not what I'm trying to say. Just be easy on putting someone else's grow down. Let him get results the way he wants. Believe it or not, your nutes weren't given to you by god himself, and neither was mine.
Well, GH is well known over here to be shit, and dont call me arrogant, i havnt flung any insults at you have i??

And if you did your homework youd have realised this before you wasted your money on it.

I wasnt putting Dannys grows down in any way shape or form mate, i havnt seen any of Dannys grow so im not in a position to, virtually every organic grower over here uses bio bizz ferts, just grow and bloom, with good results, its extremely easy to use, and very forgiving, very hard to go wrong with it, so thats why i was saying that if he didnt get good results there must have been something wrong, its not some so called spectacular over hyped over priced product like AN's line of mickey mouse crap, its just a good all round organic fert with proven results for decades, and CHEAP, dunno where you got the idea from that its the same price as AN???

I know bio bizz isnt distributed as widely in the US like it is in europe, maybe thats why its more expensive there, i dunno?

Like iv said before, if AN dropped their prices dramatically, and got some organic certification, for which bio bizz carries several, then i might someday consider switching.

But im sorry, im still yet to see any results from AN's line that i cant replicate or beat with my two cheap bottles of tried tested and proven basic ferts.

Besides growing big good buds is more about a good growing environment than the food you feed, you give the plant the basics of what it needs in terms of feed plus the ideal growing environment and itl reward you greatly, regardless of what brand you feed it.

One day il do a side by side grow, 20 clones from the same plant, 10 on bio bizz, 10 on the full range of AN shite, and blow the AN crap out of the water, youl see, il expose it for the over priced over marketed over hyped bollox that it really is, end of.
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Well, GH is well known over here to be shit, and dont call me arrogant, i havnt flung any insults at you have i??

And if you did your homework youd have realised this before you wasted your money on it.
First, I know GH is crap, I knew it when I went and bought it, but cheap is cheap.

Second, Chill bro. I mean't no offense, and I did not intend to call you arrogant, just that your post, or more specifically, your comment was an arrogant one. If I offended you, I'm sorry, wasn't my intention.

And you havn't started insulting [I]me[I] yet, but I don't have a problem talking to you about something you said before you start insulting me.

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I wasnt putting Dannys grows down in any way shape or form mate, i havnt seen any of Dannys grow so im not in a position to, virtually every organic grower over here uses bio bizz ferts, just grow and bloom, with good results, its extremely easy to use, and very forgiving, very hard to go wrong with it, so thats why i was saying that if he didnt get good results there must have been something wrong, its not some so called spectacular over hyped over priced product like AN's line of mickey mouse crap, its just a good all round organic fert with proven results for decades, and CHEAP, dunno where you got the idea from that its the same price as AN???

I know bio bizz isnt distributed as widely in the US like it is in europe, maybe thats why its more expensive there, i dunno?
Hydroempire, Organic Hydroponic Nutrients, Indoor Grow Lights and Supplies - Sensi-Grow (Part A&B) - Liter - $29.95 $30, Hydroempire, Organic Hydroponic Nutrients, Indoor Grow Lights and Supplies - BIOBIZZ GROW ? Liquid Fertilizer - Gallon - $44.95 $44. And yes, I realize it is a Liter vs. a Gallon. I weighed that into comparison, but $30 out of my pocket is cheaper than $44 out of my pocket, and I figured if I paid $30 and didn't like it, I'd only be out 30 and be over with the nutes soon enough, if I paid $44 and didn't like it, I would be out an extra 14 and have to deal with the ferts I didn't like for much longer. That's why I went with AN. I know liter for liter Bio Biz is cheaper, but if I found it sold in liters I probably would have went with Bio Biz first.

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Like iv said before, if AN dropped their prices dramatically, and got some organic certification, for which bio bizz carries several, then i might someday consider switching.

But im sorry, im still yet to see any results from AN's line that i cant replicate or beat with my two cheap bottles of tried tested and proven basic ferts.

Besides growing big good buds is more about a good growing environment than the food you feed, you give the plant the basics of what it needs in terms of feed plus the ideal growing environment and itl reward you greatly, regardless of what brand you feed it.
AN is way over priced, I'll give you that, and they way over hipe their shit, a known fact. This, in combonation with the fact that they have like 50 damn additives does piss me off, but their basic nute seems to work well for me, that's all I'm saying.

But if it is much more about a good growing environment than it is about what you fed them, as long as you give them the ideal growing environment and the basic npk that they need, then why can't you do anything with GH's 3 part?

The environment does a lot, probably way more than anything else, but nutes really do matter in my opinion. And you get what you pay for, generally speaking.

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One day il do a side by side grow, 20 clones from the same plant, 10 on bio bizz, 10 on the full range of AN shite, and blow the AN crap out of the water, youl see, il expose it for the over priced over marketed over hyped bollox that it really is, end of.
I would love to see that. Seriously. You do a side by side, unbiased experiment, from clone, in the same environment, and if you can change my mind I'll switch. I'm not preaching the gospel of AN, I have just seen it work.

I'll give you mad props if you do it though. All those additives are expensive as shit! I stick with the sensi, big bud, overdrive, and that's too costly for me. I can't even think about buying voodoo, pirana, tarantula, b52, bla, bla, bla.
 

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