OK, I give up. Your way too hard core to change, just think about the death bed thing. when your drawing your last breaths, you might see the light, I can only hope, for your sake. I'm definently not trying to convert anyone, I just thought reasonable people would have to admit that the complexities of this world are far beyond the scope of man ergo a power greater than man must exist. I worked with an athiest and try as I could, I couldn't convince him either, so, you either get it or you don't, and I don't know if you can change, I know that I can never give up hope that a power greater than me exists somewhere in the cosmos and in the final analysis, things work for the greater good! peace!