My apologies Al I've just finished reading this thread in full as i only just realised there were multiple pages (wot a dumbass, but i am learning) and this typing buisiness is quite time consuming. Thanks for the info, its more than i thought to ask so here's another thanks.

I would like to show you my op at some point when i get round to asking my brother how to get pics from my phone, to this poxy laptop. please dont waste your time explaining it, i would appreciate it but probably wouldn't understand. I need to be shown an re-shown, im sure you know what i mean.

I think I might tackle the famous '2 week thread' now i have new knowlege, but its getting late here and the missus needs servicing, saying that i would like to iron the last few unanswered questions......

" Up the chair sniffing "