Listen to me bredren....If your looking for cheap reliable seeds, order from Mandala. Heres the site Mandala Shop order from them and u will be thanking me a whole lot later. I've had a germination rate of 19/20. took about a 1.5 weeks once they received the bread. Bomb strains, best prices overall that i've found, and believe me i've searched through them all, and im not denouncing seedboutique or anything cuz i havent ordered from them but i do hear complaints somewhat more often than i should. Just thank me later Peace bredren