
04-12-2008, 02:56 AM
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The Gardener
Mr. Ganja
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Join Date: Jul 2007
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Originally Posted by medicineman
I'm part Irish, I just haven't figured out which part. The Irish gangs in New York and other cities were pretty ruthless, I don't think the Germans or the Italions have an upper hand on ruthlessness. It wasn't uncommon to find one of your gang members head in a bag on your front porch, placed there by a rival gang. I'll keep my head, thank you. I can't figure out why the Irish didn't just beat the hell out of the English, I guess superior weaponry was the answer. Life was tough in Ireland in the pre-modern times.
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They have on a few times through out history MM , A decade or so after the 1st time in the early 1600,s Oliver Cromwell stormed Drogheda and statterd every one, He says no more than 30 people surived with there lifes ,10,000 women and children were hiding in a chaple, He baracaded them in and torched it , The people were already starving and homless and could not buy or use any land they could not defend them selfs
It was in a act of god he says and he was classed and still is to this day as some sort of hero .....
Micheal Collins and his men defeted them again in 1916 and 3/4 of Ireland was United again ,
But this only ment the north would just carry on suffering the same ,
In the 1920 the black and tans and other rouge police RUC UDR and gangs UVF , Would kick in doors in the early hours and Murder all males somtimes women ,
Nixon and Carson i think the names of the leaders behind this Secretive rouge police here they are The McMahon Murders Belfast
It stoped after the world war 2 untill 1960,s
Ian paisley sparked up fears in the british communitys and started off more or less a civil war in 1969 the streets were no go areas right through the 70,s (The 70,s seen as much cruel Acts to the Irish as the 1600,s did)
Most of the police had links to splinter murder gangs and supplied them with guns and destroyed evidence ect . to this day there is still court cases of 100s of people and state murder
There was a Group called the skankill butchers , The name says it all , they drove the streets and lifted innocent people and brought them to there hide outs and sliced every bit of them with razor blades , The book gets into the full details of what they would do , here it is The Shankill Butchers, Belfast's notorious hoodlum terrorists - The Crime Library - The Crime library
Then the 1980,s they fought back in a fearless way and other rivals would supply guns to the irish
When the soldiers shot and killed the civil rights protesters 70s ,And the hunger strikers died in 81, Aftrer that i think every 1 just wanted to fight back , live bloody sunday YouTube - Derry: 30th January 1972 the hunger strikers YouTube - For Bobby Sands any trouble was brought on by them after these 2 acts and thats exectly what happend myhem
Up untill The last 20 years Irish people in the north could not vote or could they get a decent job or a decent education and where made to live in slumes .
Out spoken irish voices would get cencered gerry adams voice was edited the hole way through the 80,s and he was running for mp lol there was never any thing about the south or irish allowed on T.V or any media coverage encluding gealic games , Unless it was protraying them as bad
Mordern day Irish in the north had the same struggle as the accient irish, It was just un-heard of from a 1 sided state government
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