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Originally Posted by Maccabee
Judeo-Christian. And that's better expressed as Wesetern Monotheistic--Islam is part of the 'Judeo-Christian' tradition, and Muslims worship the same God.
You're making broad statements that not even all prominent Christian theologians throughout history would agree with. Go check out the Deists, or the notion of a "clockmaker God" who creates, puts the creation into motion, and then steps back.
So are you going to worship me as the Son of God? Your earnestness is commendable, and you have a right to be offended by the essay, but you're making terrible arguments. It would be better and more convincing to simply respond with a profession of faith.
This sounded good....
....but this directly contradicts it and demonstrates that you don't really feel that way even though you know it's the 'correct' view.
Archeology can tell us certain things. Locations of cities, distances vs. time, how people lived. Such information is very important even to Biblical scholars so they can understand parts of the Bible that make reference to people, places and events that have been lost to history.
You know, you're mixing up the Old Testament, the Gospels, Milton's Paradise Lost and Dante's Inferno here.
And there are a lot of Christians that would tell you that believing anything could have existed before Adam and Eve is blasphemous and that carbon dating of the Earth and the fossil record are all either Satanic trickery or a test of faith.
Would you feel that way if our laws were grounded in Islamic sharia rather than the Deist sensibilities of our Framers, or in a dogmatic atheism? No, you would agitate for change.
To suggest that what John Ashcroft and his ilk represent is in keeping with what the Framers and the revolutionary generation wanted for this country is a farce. They wanted religion kept out of politics for a reason: it was being used to oppress them by the Crown. The same thing happens in our society when we go too far in relaxing the separation of church and state.
Wrong. Not every country has single state religion--in fact the United States does not. By Constitutional decree. And the linkage you make to language is telling. Guess what: not every has a single national language either. In fact: the United States does not have an official language. By law.
You need to study these things and do a little bit of research before you start spouting off.
That's good to hear, and that's the most important thing.
How generous of you. Are you not seeing the double standard here? 'We' are no more or less entitled to our views than 'you' are. 'Even' has no place in that sentence.
There is a heavy emphasis on evangelism in many forms Christianity. You may not engage in it, and generalizing is never wise, but it's fair for people's perception of the religion to be colored by their experience of its adherents.
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1. yea judeo-christian sounds better
2. i don't know anything about a clockmaster god but i was told in church that the Lord's powers are unlimited.
3.no im not going to worship you, what i mean to say is jesus said he was the sun of god in the new testiment but if you read the old testiment that through adam and eve we are all god's children. so even if he wassent a direct son of god, he was still a son of god becase we all are.
4.it dosen't matter who studies what. None of us where there so really we are all just guessing and going by things that were passed down from that time.
5. im not mixing up anything, in fact i was trying to put the pieces back for the dude. he said theat the devil looked like a monster with red horns, well in the bible satan is a beautiful angel, i've even seen pictures in church of satan and they never looked liked that. now with dante's infurno, i was saying that he might of got that image form that book because Dante was one of the first to create a monstorus image of the fallen angel.
6.it says right in the bible that things lived befor adam and eve. he made everything befor he created adam, so how could ppl not believe that?
7. yes, it wouldnt matter to me what was the main religion , as long as they gave me the freedom to practice my own aswell.
8. the revolutionary generation wanted the freedom to practice their own religion, as the pilgrims befor them. but this country was built on the belief in god and the right to be free. hence "in god we trust" and "under god". now im not saying the revolutionary war was like the crusades but a big spark in the hearts of the patriots was the belief in god.
9.no actually your wrong, every country-state has a major language and religion in which they practice. there might be other language and religions in that area, but if you took all the languages and religions and mate a pie graph, you would notice that there would be a language or religion that took up majority of the pie. every place has its own prevailing religion. in fact here is a chart to show you
Image:Worldreligion.png - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
10. when i said "even" i wassn't emplying that I have more rights then he does i was tryin to say even someone who is a non believer has the same rights as everyone else.
11. i don't know any christians like that, maybe somewhere up in Idaho somewhere but not here. I understand that there are some real assholes in the world but no matter what the writter when through, he can't say that ALLchristains are bible waving maniacs. obveously be both have some angry passionate views on the topic and thats what always happends when you talk about religion in such a diverse space. He is entitled to his opinion, all im saying is he made a good point until he started ranting about why he dosen't believe that jesus was the sun of god. also i don't think you can debunk religion. and reguardless to what type of scientific statement you make on any religion, there will always be an arguing party. thats all
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