Ok i never used rude words...but hey i guess that comes with age. Anyways i'm just saying that on an average you need more then 2 lights to grow, you said you used your MH...you never said anything about doing a whole veg with just cfl's...if so...i gotta admit it looks good. That plant you looked at was an experiment...to see how well you can grow using these lights. I think and i know from lots of complments that it was grown very well. The more light you have the better the plant will grow, and that's the facts.