i tried it back in 2002...bought it thru HighTimes...Got 2 kinds, one was called Panama Red and the other name i forget. They suck. I packed it in a bowl, bong or pipe, and it wouldnt light. If and when it did, it tasted like plastic. There is no high,..if anything it s like a cigarette head rush...nothing compared to the mind blowing effects of salvia (too intense 4 me)