again,sorry for double posting ! i hope i didnt piss anyone off by doing so.i had typed that entry three times b 4 i could get it to show.i kept getting logged off.again i hope if you try it, it works.please let us know.it would save so many people so much money ! i also had posted the instant acting dosages but they did not show.but not to worry,they are very similar to the vale 4x ingredients.