Just a bit of my experience in ordering, i used Dutchseeds.com . They shipped it with no return address in a bubble envelope. Inside the envelope was a piece of paper that said i had won a free ash tray. Open the ashtray and the seeds were in the back behind a piece of gauze out of plain view. As far as the credit card payment i tried looking on my statement but could not find it cause they make a phoney name to charge by.