Hey humboldt, you do seem to be taking this a little too personally. Accidents can and do happen... even to fdd.

A cfl forum might be a good idea. personally, I don't care. The only trouble that I can see is that all of the top growers (therefore the most knowledgeable) grow with HID's or the sun. I feel that a cfl forum wouldn't often be visited by the more knowledgeable growers.

Personally i wouldn't ever consider flowering under cfl's. I don't even rate them for clones, and that's the truth. I clone under mh... but then I've always been an impatient guy. If someone told me that I could cut a week off flowering time by using 2 1000w HPS, i would find a way to fit them into my tiny flowering area...

You guys keep buying the cfl's though... you never know once you give the companies enough money they may design a super cfl. Low heat with HPS intensity. Until that day, I'm quite happy just mounting one HPS light above the plants, rather than 40 cfl's surrounding it.