thanks guys, i have a r.o system and the water is neutral(at least my meter says so lol) i have now transplanted to 5 gallon buckets and just given them straight water.. i'll let then sit for a few days and see what happens, a friend told me to give them a shot of superthrive with the next watering but i'm not sure about this, so if you guys can tell me what you think about that i'd appreciate it....thanks in advance!!!