Hi Hairy Bob. yeah they've beenon 12/12 light for 3 wks now. i really should be writing i all down as i go along! im certainly learning alot.

thanks, yep i found out how much they need: 50ml to 10l water. but, like u said... starting them on a quarter of that. how often should i up the amount? will keep close eye on them next few days.

Ive had to remove the drawers from bottom of wardrobe today cos the 2 big girls are so tall! will update pics soon.

See, another thing i misunderstood was 8wks from budding, not from seed. have to add another month which i didnt realise. Ive read they need 12-13 wks! Trouble is im goin away for a wk 10 august! worried they wont be ready by then. any way i can speed things up?

Oh, and am i doin the right thing by giving them 12/12 light? thats another thing i havent been able to make sense of. trouble is the filter fan is so loud i cant have it on much longer, cos ppl being around. *problems prolems!*

must have a joint to calm me down thanks again