I didn't mean it got shut down because of the shit talking. I meant that the shit talking brought attention to the forum that otherwise pretty well ran itself. There are threads about DMT extractions that weren't closed down. What about threads talking about using butane(a chemical) to make hash oil(an illegal substance)? It just seems like the point where its not cool to talk about something is just arbitrarily chosen. I fully understand that its the right of the person that owns site to say what is acceptable, I just don't understand the criteria they use to draw the line.