Thanks for the advice. I've ordered some more from another source which I should have in a week or so. meanwhile I decided to play around with these to give myself the experience of "nursing them". Most didn't make it but the three out of the four Jack's are looking quite well now and a couple of the Grapefruit's don't look too bad either. I may even decide to include them in my grow if they carry on. I've also purchases three different kind of seeds from Ali Bongo Seeds but i'll say more about them in my journal to my first grow.